SECURITY ISSUES?
SECURITY ISSUES?
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JDFTVR

Original Poster:

57 posts

240 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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Why do guys on here keep asking us to post "how to get into their car's?" for what ever reason.

IMO if you own one then you shouldn't need to ask.

But why would someone want the whole world to know through a web site?

Am I the only one who gets nervous seeing these threads, I think if any of us see a topic on this we should report it, and let PH decide to remove it??????

Edited by JDFTVR on Tuesday 5th February 12:06

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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I think you are too paranoid, personally...

Breaking window / break hood guarantees any scrote entry, publishing the correct ways to enter a car which is reliant on 'odd' door locks is not going to affect that in the least. If they really want them they only have to buy SH's book anyway.

Security wise you have an alarm & immobilizer which should protect your p&j?

Always been a bit amused by the emotion that this topic arouses wink

Dave

JDFTVR

Original Poster:

57 posts

240 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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Common sense really.

So would you be happy to see a post on how to gain access to your boot for example?

I'm sure our insurance companies would love that, especially the higher premiums?

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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JDFTVR said:
So would you be happy to see a post on how to gain access to your boot for example?
Personally wouldn't bat an eyelid....

It still does not help with disarming the alarm, the information which really should be guarded (which SH carefully avoids in detail IIRC). I would be more worried about a host of TVR's being assembled in Stockport as regards Insurance premiums.

Dave

black-k1

12,807 posts

259 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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I understand what you are saying but it would be incredibly naive to think that those that want to gain access to your car (or its boot) illegally don’t already know how to do it and generally don’t really give a monkeys if the inflict damage or not.

The requests on this forum are generally from people like myself, who have found themselves in a position where the normal access methods no longer work but they still need access. They don’t want to cause damage as they are the ones who will have to pay for it. Most ask to receive the information via methods other than it being published on the open forum and even those that don’t request this don’t object to being e-mailed directly.

Is one of the purposes of a forum such as this not to allow owners/enthusiasts a platform through which to request/share advice, hints and tips?

Would I be happy to see a post that explains how to gain access to my boot? I don’t really care either way! As stated above, I am sure that those that want to gain access illegally already know how and that the insurance companies have already taken this into account.

DJ JULES

156 posts

235 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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If you are refering to my last post, i did ask people to email me, which they did, no harm done.


JULES

Roop

6,018 posts

314 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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It really doesn't make much difference. If someone really wants to break into and/or steal your car they will do. All these trick emergency entry systems are no match for the stock street burglar equipment of half a brick / pellet of gravel vs side glass.

That said, years ago when the battery died on the Chimaera, I "broke in" to the cabin without damage and had popped the bonnet release in 15 seconds flat. Wasn't hard and didn't take much thought.

I wouldn't worry. Keep all valuables locked away out of sight or better still out of the car and park the car where driving or lifting it away would be difficult.

JDFTVR

Original Poster:

57 posts

240 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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Put it this way, does anyone still leave their spare house keys under the flower pot next to the front door?

mdotrutherford

237 posts

237 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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rolleyes How am I supposed to see a key under a flower pot ?, now, a milk bottle is the way to go.

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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JDFTVR said:
Put it this way, does anyone still leave their spare house keys under the flower pot next to the front door?
Probably nowhere nearly as many as leave cars/houses/garages unlocked by mistake....

Dave

JDFTVR

Original Poster:

57 posts

240 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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well JC didn't see any harm in publishing his bank account details and that was deliberate, same as posting details on how to get into our cars?whistle

AntonyJ

5,254 posts

311 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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JDFTVR said:
well JC didn't see any harm in publishing his bank account details and that was deliberate, same as posting details on how to get into our cars?whistle
Exactly, and that cost him £500 quid to a charity didn't it!

matt-man

2,667 posts

249 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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Sorry to stray into this forum but got bored and was browsing!!!

I shut my keys in the boot of my wedge last summer....how annoying!!! Luckily i managed to get some tips of guys in the forum, and even luckier for a mate of mine who did it on the motorway services halfway to the wedgefest!!!!!

T_Pot

2,542 posts

227 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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lets be honest, your local tea leaf is not going to ask here how to break into your car with no damage, he just gonna go in via the soft top isn't he?


i have a chimaera and i know how to gain entry to my boot, but don't know if there is a way to open doors easily. ill only ask when im stuck locked out most likely as till then, i dont need to know

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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T_Pot said:
i have a chimaera and i know how to gain entry to my boot, but don't know if there is a way to open doors easily. ill only ask when im stuck locked out most likely as till then, i dont need to know
Its quite important to realize that not all the cars are the same, TVR evolved different methods as the door locks were upgraded.. Keeping this information undercover has only confused IMHO... Eg, entry to the boot in my car will only get you into the erm boot! There are lots of cases where owners think every model is like their own - the variations are a real minefield to negotiate.

This thread is only relevant to you T-Pot if you ever ask advice (when desperate) and are fed a load rubbish wink Ignorance is not bliss, which is why I strongly believe these things should be documented here - the alarm / immob is what makes the car secure IMHO.

Dave

T_Pot

2,542 posts

227 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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totaly agree spend.
come the time ill need it, there will be no one on line that can help...ill bet money on it

Big Al.

69,336 posts

288 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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T_Pot said:
there will be no one on line that can help...ill bet money on it
OH yes

wink

Red V8

873 posts

257 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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spend said:
I think you are too paranoid, personally...

Breaking window / break hood guarantees any scrote entry, publishing the correct ways to enter a car which is reliant on 'odd' door locks is not going to affect that in the least. If they really want them they only have to buy SH's book anyway.

Security wise you have an alarm & immobilizer which should protect your p&j?

Always been a bit amused by the emotion that this topic arouses wink

Dave
I agree... imagine the scenario, local villan wants to steal TVR... just pops onto PH to ask how... somehow I think not... these people don't care about damaging your car... stanley knife is normally their chosen tool for gaining entry to soft tops.

thenick

4,027 posts

242 months

Tuesday 5th February 2008
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Totally agree, what a silly topic... It's a soft top for gods sake, its like trying to put a lock on a tent! Just don't leave anything of value in the car... No matter how you look at it, getting into one of our cars is never going to take more than a few seconds for anyone who really wants to. Starting it is another matter altogether though, and after chatting to an ex car theif while installing my alarm, i'm quite satisfied that it would take a fair bit of work to start one, even if you knew how to do it (which is unlikely for your average car theif!).

If you're that worried about security, get a dual stage microwave sensor for the car so that the alarm chirps even if someone gets close to the rear screen with a stanley knife!