MIL Light
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chrispitman

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Wednesday 9th April 2008
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Can anyone tell me what the 'MIL' light is for, and where the wires from the LED goto.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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Wednesday 9th April 2008
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chrispitman said:
Can anyone tell me what the 'MIL' light is for
The MIL light tells you there's a problem with injection/emissions.

Edited coz I'm a knob biggrin

Edited by 2 sMoKiN bArReLs on Wednesday 9th April 16:26

chrispitman

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Wednesday 9th April 2008
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Thats the one the other side on dash panel with 'i' on it. Found my book at last the 'MIL' is fuel injection fault but what is the light connected to.

Johno

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Wednesday 9th April 2008
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
chrispitman said:
Can anyone tell me what the 'MIL' light is for
There's a switch which turns off fuel in event of accident. The MIL light tells you it's been activated.
That's not correct.

The inertia switch warning light tells you when the inertia switch has been activated. It is a seperate warning light.

The MiL light refers to the ECU, and is highklighted when a sensor input to the ECU is outside of operable range and causing the ECU to run in limp home or derivatives of it.

For example, if your AFM get's full of water, the readings will go haywire, the ECU will go to limp home and the MiL light will come on to tell you there is a sensor fault. You then shopuld get a code reader to identify and affect the repair.

Johno

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Wednesday 9th April 2008
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chrispitman said:
Thats the one the other side on dash panel with 'i' on it. Found my book at last the 'MIL' is fuel injection fault but what is the light connected to.
Could be any of the main sensors/injectors to the ECU. My experience was it was 95% of the time the AFM. But that was my car.

So I junked the AFM and now the MiL light is a redundant light in the dash which I can decide what to do with . . . Shift light is hidden somehere else and so at the moment, it's there but not in use . ..


chrispitman

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Wednesday 9th April 2008
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So I assume it goes to the ecu, any idea on which pin. As the MIL light cable colour is no present at the ecu I assume it goes else where or changes colour in a connector behind the dash.

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Wednesday 9th April 2008
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Johno said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
chrispitman said:
Can anyone tell me what the 'MIL' light is for
There's a switch which turns off fuel in event of accident. The MIL light tells you it's been activated.
That's not correct.

The inertia switch warning light tells you when the inertia switch has been activated. It is a seperate warning light.

The MiL light refers to the ECU, and is highklighted when a sensor input to the ECU is outside of operable range and causing the ECU to run in limp home or derivatives of it.

For example, if your AFM get's full of water, the readings will go haywire, the ECU will go to limp home and the MiL light will come on to tell you there is a sensor fault. You then shopuld get a code reader to identify and affect the repair.
Doh! Well you live & learn! Which is the separate light for the inertia switch then? (Taken me twelve years to find this out!)

What a dope I turned out to be! biggrin

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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Wednesday 9th April 2008
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Just got the handbook out...so now I know the answer!

sorry for any confusion, but then most PHers know to ignore what I say anyway!

blitzracing

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251 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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I think its pin 10 on the ECU, but even if you have the wiring, it may not be enabled in the ECU Eprom. A lot of UK fuel maps had it turned off, unlike american spec fuel maps. Assuming its connected it should blink as a test on power up if the ECU is enabled.
Mark

Pupp

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303 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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On the one occasion I had a fault code showing, the MIL light did illuminate. That was for the mythical purge valve fault that is not a fault according to some wisdom. When removing redundant wiring for my ECU swap, I did come across wiring of the same colour and connections (to the old ECU) as the schematic I was using indicated was the 'fault light'. It's now in a bucket with a ton of other stuff smile

chrispitman

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Wednesday 9th April 2008
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Gary when you removed your wiring have far did you go, did you just take it back to the connectors behind the dash or right back to the light ie opening the top dash loom.

blitzracing

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Wednesday 9th April 2008
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Pupp said:
On the one occasion I had a fault code showing, the MIL light did illuminate. That was for the mythical purge valve fault that is not a fault according to some wisdom. When removing redundant wiring for my ECU swap, I did come across wiring of the same colour and connections (to the old ECU) as the schematic I was using indicated was the 'fault light'. It's now in a bucket with a ton of other stuff smile
Did yours blink as part of the ECU test ? I certainly cant get my 1992 ECU to do this with a Chimaera chip fitted. Im getting a fault code reader shortly, so Ill pull the AFM off to make the ECU fail, check the code, and see if the light comes on.

Mark

Pupp

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Wednesday 9th April 2008
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blitzracing said:
Pupp said:
On the one occasion I had a fault code showing, the MIL light did illuminate. That was for the mythical purge valve fault that is not a fault according to some wisdom. When removing redundant wiring for my ECU swap, I did come across wiring of the same colour and connections (to the old ECU) as the schematic I was using indicated was the 'fault light'. It's now in a bucket with a ton of other stuff smile
Did yours blink as part of the ECU test ? I certainly cant get my 1992 ECU to do this with a Chimaera chip fitted. Im getting a fault code reader shortly, so Ill pull the AFM off to make the ECU fail, check the code, and see if the light comes on.

Mark
It was a steady light and that's what prompted me to plug the reader in... I'd been completely leathering the car on a PH run as it happens and the light came on on the way home

Pupp

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303 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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chrispitman said:
Gary when you removed your wiring have far did you go, did you just take it back to the connectors behind the dash or right back to the light ie opening the top dash loom.
I took as much back to the connectors as I could although I have left the tails in for the purge valve, the redundant speed sensor link (ECU one, not speedo) and a number of spurious earths on the basis they might be useful. I didn't disturb the loom inside the dash top but may do so whenever the dash comes out for replacement. You'll be amazed at the amount of stuff that is 'surplus' smile

blitzracing

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251 months

Wednesday 9th April 2008
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Pupp said:
blitzracing said:
Pupp said:
On the one occasion I had a fault code showing, the MIL light did illuminate. That was for the mythical purge valve fault that is not a fault according to some wisdom. When removing redundant wiring for my ECU swap, I did come across wiring of the same colour and connections (to the old ECU) as the schematic I was using indicated was the 'fault light'. It's now in a bucket with a ton of other stuff smile
Did yours blink as part of the ECU test ? I certainly cant get my 1992 ECU to do this with a Chimaera chip fitted. Im getting a fault code reader shortly, so Ill pull the AFM off to make the ECU fail, check the code, and see if the light comes on.

Mark
It was a steady light and that's what prompted me to plug the reader in... I'd been completely leathering the car on a PH run as it happens and the light came on on the way home
Sorry a mis understanding, what I meant was did it normally come on for a moment when you turn the ignition on, then go out, even before the fault was present?

Mark


Pupp

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Wednesday 9th April 2008
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blitzracing said:
Pupp said:
blitzracing said:
Pupp said:
On the one occasion I had a fault code showing, the MIL light did illuminate. That was for the mythical purge valve fault that is not a fault according to some wisdom. When removing redundant wiring for my ECU swap, I did come across wiring of the same colour and connections (to the old ECU) as the schematic I was using indicated was the 'fault light'. It's now in a bucket with a ton of other stuff smile
Did yours blink as part of the ECU test ? I certainly cant get my 1992 ECU to do this with a Chimaera chip fitted. Im getting a fault code reader shortly, so Ill pull the AFM off to make the ECU fail, check the code, and see if the light comes on.

Mark
Sorry, yes.

It was a steady light and that's what prompted me to plug the reader in... I'd been completely leathering the car on a PH run as it happens and the light came on on the way home
Sorry a mis understanding, what I meant was did it normally come on for a moment when you turn the ignition on, then go out, even before the fault was present?

Mark