Toyo T1R Track day pressure settings?
Toyo T1R Track day pressure settings?
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ChimpyV8

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73 posts

236 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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Hi All

Going to track my brand new T1R's this week, and was wondering what you all thought regarding front /rear tyre pressures? I have the 225 50 16 rear 205 55 15 front combo

tvrbob

11,197 posts

286 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news but new tyres on a trackday is a bad thing. The tyre heat is generated by the movement of the treads. The more tread depth the more heat you'll generate. My advice is to limit yourself to 10 minutes max, after that your grip will be turning to jelly.

As for pressures that depends partly on what springs and damper settings you have. I'll assume you are running on original suspension. T1-R's are not very rigid so you will need to add some pressure to get the best out of the car, I would suggest 28 rear 26 front. Don't make them too hard or you'll get 'snap' oversteer and finally, don't forget to drop them down again before you drive home.

ChimpyV8

Original Poster:

73 posts

236 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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Thanks for that, I will be driving to Germany to "bed them in" first!

I will try that pressure, sounds about right smile

johnbear

1,568 posts

266 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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What if you're driving hard on normal roads, are Toyo's going to over heat?

What road pressures should I be running for fast country roads i.e switzerland.

tvrbob

11,197 posts

286 months

Tuesday 15th April 2008
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johnbear said:
What if you're driving hard on normal roads, are Toyo's going to over heat?
No. Track use is very different to road use. Just trust me on this one.

johnbear said:
What road pressures should I be running for fast country roads i.e switzerland.
Toyo T1-R's need a little more pressure than the original fit SO2pp's due to differences in their rigidity. 24/26 is a good starting point, don't go above 26/28 for road use or it'll not cope with poor road surfaces or potholes.

C4PNE

50 posts

232 months

Saturday 19th April 2008
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tvrbob said:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but new tyres on a trackday is a bad thing. The tyre heat is generated by the movement of the treads. The more tread depth the more heat you'll generate. My advice is to limit yourself to 10 minutes max, after that your grip will be turning to jelly.

As for pressures that depends partly on what springs and damper settings you have. I'll assume you are running on original suspension. T1-R's are not very rigid so you will need to add some pressure to get the best out of the car, I would suggest 28 rear 26 front. Don't make them too hard or you'll get 'snap' oversteer and finally, don't forget to drop them down again before you drive home.
Hi Bob, I tried to phone you a couple of weeks ago before going on a track day at Croft.

If I had managed to get hold of you, maybe you could have saved me trashing four new Toyos !! frown

I ran with 24 PSI all day. OK when the track was wet, but two 10 lap sessions in the dry at the end of the day have taken the edges of both fronts and left all wheels with a rippled finnish! I think this is called 'learning the HARD way'

Ho Hum smile

tvrbob

11,197 posts

286 months

Sunday 20th April 2008
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C4PNE said:
Hi Bob, I tried to phone you a couple of weeks ago before going on a track day at Croft.

If I had managed to get hold of you, maybe you could have saved me trashing four new Toyos !! frown

I ran with 24 PSI all day. OK when the track was wet, but two 10 lap sessions in the dry at the end of the day have taken the edges of both fronts and left all wheels with a rippled finnish! I think this is called 'learning the HARD way'

Ho Hum smile
I haven't changed my number confused I'll PM you from the other forum with my mobile number so that you can check if you have the right one. If you change your tyres you'll need to keep the old ones and put them back on for the TOH track day biggrin

softtop

3,172 posts

278 months

Sunday 20th April 2008
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C4PNE said:
OK when the track was wet, but two 10 lap sessions in the dry at the end of the day have taken the edges of both fronts and left all wheels with a rippled finnish! I think this is called 'learning the HARD way'

Ho Hum smile
The tyres will recover, the rippling should go once you start to use it on the road. However, nothing can replace actual tread depth!

softtop

3,172 posts

278 months

Sunday 20th April 2008
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johnbear said:
What if you're driving hard on normal roads, are Toyo's going to over heat?

What road pressures should I be running for fast country roads i.e switzerland.
Is this your travel insurance policy to get you there and back wink