Fuel pump constantly whiring!
Fuel pump constantly whiring!
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aaandy

Original Poster:

762 posts

275 months

Thursday 14th August 2003
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Stopped in traffic on the way back from Bruntingthorpe on Sunday and noticed a noise coming from under the car, sounding very similar to the noise when the ignition is first turned on. Got out to investigate and sure enough it is the fuel pump making the noise. Think that is right but am a bit of a mechanical numpty, but in laymans terms it is the motor on the fuel line that is located behind the left rear wheel. PS. It's a Chim 400 1998.

Basically the symptoms are: -
1). Turn the key in the ignition and fuel pump primes/whirs for a few seconds and then stops as it should do
2). Engine fires up OK as normal
3). When engine is running the fuel pump starts again making much the same noise as when it is priming itself. Basically the motor is running constantly which doesn't sound right to me.

Engine is still running fine but I am sure that this is not a good sign. So the questions I have are basically.
Q. Does anyone know what could cause this and how I can stop/fix it?
Q. Will it do any harm if I keep using the car while it is doing this before I get a chance to fix it?

As usual any help would be greatly appreciated.

Andy.

tamago

532 posts

285 months

Thursday 14th August 2003
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this has happened to me before. never caused me any concern though. it only happens when the car is restarted after it is really hot.

But once it cools down, the whirring disappears...
i think it is one of those things u have to live with...??!!

AAAndy

Original Poster:

762 posts

275 months

Thursday 14th August 2003
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That would make sense on Saturday as it was roasting at Bruntingthorpe and it did get a couple of duns down the run way which was fun.

However I tried it again the other evening (still reasonably warm but not too extreme) and it was still doing the same thing. Would also understand if it could be water getting in but it has been so dry recently.

Just worried that if it keep going the motor may burn out, or something else related.

shpub

8,507 posts

295 months

Thursday 14th August 2003
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If the pump stops there will be no fuel and the engine will die PDQ. The pump effectively stays on while the engine is running to maintain a constant fuel pressure. The stratup abd stop is to pressurise the system prior to starting so that the engine will fire quickly without having to wait for the pump.

If it goes noisy, then it is either hot and it is certainly hot currently, about to die and meet its maker or the car has got quieter and you have just noticed it.

I would leave it for now as they are not cheap to replace, especially when it is probably OK.

AAAndy

Original Poster:

762 posts

275 months

Thursday 14th August 2003
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Probably just a combination of the heat and the fact that I have now noticed it. Hopefully it is not on it's way out, I guess only time will tell, he says checking that the RAC membership is still up to date!

Thanks Steve. As always a helpful response.

Voltaire53

193 posts

272 months

Thursday 14th August 2003
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tamago said:
this has happened to me before. never caused me any concern though. it only happens when the car is restarted after it is really hot.

But once it cools down, the whirring disappears...
i think it is one of those things u have to live with...??!!


Thank you all ... I just noticed a sound like this on mine this lunchtime (exacerbated, I think, by it being the first time with the hood up) and was worried; I have only had the car 5 days so am still getting used to some of its idiosyncracies!


.Mark

11,104 posts

299 months

Thursday 14th August 2003
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Well ours does it sometimes, doesn't do it others. I think if you hear it then you will tune in to that rather than the lovely V8 burble.
Had the car just over 2 years and it's always been the same :runsawayhuggingtree:

simpo two

91,327 posts

288 months

Thursday 14th August 2003
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Ditto. I noticed mine running while I went to open the garage door after a trip. I'm sure it's never done it before.

AAAndy

Original Poster:

762 posts

275 months

Thursday 14th August 2003
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Seems like I wasn't the only one worried about this. But on reflection it looks like it is one of those "They all do that Sir" type of things. PHEW!

T88CAN

3,474 posts

280 months

Thursday 14th August 2003
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Glad your mind is at rest, a lot of fuel injection pumps tend to whine some more than others in fact Ford started putting the pump INSIDE the tank to quiet them down!! oh and my fuel pump started whining on my XR4i------ 17years ago still going strong

Jon Gwynne

96 posts

273 months

Friday 15th August 2003
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Doesn't TVR look to Bosch for things like fuel pumps? I had a Mercedes 450SL for a while which used a Bosch pump and the thing was anything but quiet. Maybe this is just the way the things are made.

Anyway, over time it grew louder and when I asked my mechanic about it, he said they do tend to grow louder towards the end of their lives.

Not long after this, I noticed I was having trouble starting the engine on hot days and my guy suggested I replace the pump. When I did, the problem went away and I noticed that the new unit was much quieter (though still audible).

simpo two

91,327 posts

288 months

Friday 15th August 2003
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[quote=T88CAN
in fact Ford started putting the pump INSIDE the tank to quiet them down!! [/quote]

It was similar arrangement that blew up Apollo 13! And the 747 that crashed into the sea a few years ago off the eastern US coast...

Billybig

73 posts

273 months

Tuesday 31st August 2004
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Just noticed this last night towards the end of a drive back from Leicester to N.London. Can anyone give me an idea of the cost of a new pump in case mine is on its last legs so I can budget appropriatley. Have a service due in October.

Thanks in advance

aaandy

Original Poster:

762 posts

275 months

Tuesday 31st August 2004
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I have since chatted to a few people over this and it seems to be very common and does not necessarily mean that there is anything wrong with your fuel pump. Have also been told that they can sound very slightly louder when everything is nicely warmed up which would have been the case at the end of your journey. It has probably always been there but it is just that you have now noticed it.

Shouldn't worry too much and just get the garage to check it out when you get it serviced.

See that your profile says North London, so if your still worried you could pop down to the Ace Cafe this Friday night (monthly Middx region meet). Could listen to a few other cars to re-assure you that "they all do that sir".

TVR+Bubblecar

306 posts

261 months

Wednesday 1st September 2004
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Mine does that sir !

4.5 chim 14500 miles - I tend to notice it when the roof is up and after a quick run

It was another noise I was worrying about so I am glad you posted on here

cheers

Paranoid Chris

jeffo

39 posts

260 months

Wednesday 1st September 2004
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And mine.

Mechanic fiddled with mounting when complained of, but broke it and had to replace the unit.

Now it only buzzes quietly and intermittently and is easily drowned out by much more pleasant tunes emanating from the rear!