Clutch Replacement
Clutch Replacement
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Dan XJR

Original Poster:

253 posts

251 months

Tuesday 27th May 2008
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I've got my gearbox out and the clutch removed to slot in the replacement but there is a complication...

Unfortunately the old one looks pretty much as new, being a nice AP unit. Very little wear on the plate (if any) and on the diaphram or release bearing, infact the release fork looks brand new too. All of this nicely greased with copper slip which isn't dirty. I did txt the previous owner who said he never had it changed so that didn't help.

Anyway, the problem is I have a very high biting point on the pedal and with everything looking new, its a puzzle. Its had a new slave and master cylinder and there is definately no air in the system.

Now our theory lies in a 2mm washer that looks out of place on the release fork pivot. Have a look at the pic below and you'll see a shiney big washer under the pivot. Does anyone know if its supposed to be there?

I am out of idea's apart from that, any suggestions welcome as I need to get the clutch sorted ASAP for going to LeMans.

Dan.


Del 203

12,728 posts

280 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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If you asked a day earlier i could've had a look...


& a Bump for you biggrin

Dan XJR

Original Poster:

253 posts

251 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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Del 203 said:
If you asked a day earlier i could've had a look...


& a Bump for you biggrin
Your having a laff! Oh well, I only got the clutch off at about 10pm last night.

rev-erend

21,624 posts

315 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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Looks like a T5 g/box as I can see the inspection window at the bottom - sadly mines an LT77 so I can't check for you but you are spot on .. if you remove the washer then the bit point will be lower.

Is it installed on all T5 boxes to spread the load on the bell housing or was it put there as a crack is evident ..

Take it off and have a look.. maybe a thinner flatter washer might do the trick.

Dan XJR

Original Poster:

253 posts

251 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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Ah right I see. Thanks for the info, at least I know it should be installed.

I am struggling then to explain the high biting point in this case, is there any other explinations or room for error when the last owner fitted the new master and slave cylinders?

Slacey

1,113 posts

245 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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My T5 bites really hight too, but works faultlessly and according to the service history was swapped 10k miles or so back. The car is run at sprints and hillclimbs but the clutch has never been a problem. Not sure if I have that washer in place, but will check when I can.

Dan XJR

Original Poster:

253 posts

251 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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Thanks Slacey.

My clutch was working without fault but was worried it may be on the way out, but with having it dismantled, it looks like new. I would just like to explain the high biting point, but if its common, it looks like its going back together tonight.

lotusandy

257 posts

302 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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Hi Dan,

The washer is standard, well I assume it is as mine has exactly the same one fitted and it hasn't been touched before I stripped it down.
The high biting point is something a few here have experienced, me included, there is no definitive answer as to what causes it.
I replaced my clutch master cylinder as the old ones seals were leaking very slightly, this then moved the biting point right up & caused the clutch to start making noises when the pedal was pressed.
I thought the clutch had probably had it, but similar to you found that all components were in very good condition. The only possibly area of wear that I have identified is on the end of the fingers where the release bering pushes on, so I will replace this and hope for the best!
If all else fails the easy way foward is to trim a few mm off the length of the slave cylinder push rod.
The only theory I have is that the replacement master cylinders being fitted are in some way sightly different to the origonals?
Good luck Andy

Dan XJR

Original Poster:

253 posts

251 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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Interesting Andy, although the replacement cylinders where bought through TVR Car Parts, I wonder if the displacement is different in some way.

To be honest, I think I am almost happy to put the car back together again as it is.

Mine has very slight wear in the diaphram fingers but nothing that would worry me.

Many thanks for everyones replies. smile

Dan.

daz the plumber

14,997 posts

262 months

Wednesday 28th May 2008
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just picked up my three piece clutch kit ,should i of got some greece in the kit . what type do i need