Indicator / Hazards Problem

[robmarrs]

Hi all

Is the list of things that go wrong with TVR's endless? In my 7 months of ownership so much has gone wrong i am really starting to regret selling my RS2000, the only up side is at least the TVR is driveable as the Escort was engineless for 6 years.

Any way i now have a problem with the indicators on the offside, all three are on permanently and not flashing (the indicator stalk is central and hazards not engaged), if you indicate right nothing happens still on, indicate left and it flashes as normal. Put the hazards on and they all come on permanently (not flashing). The only way to turn these off is to pull the battery lead off. My Chim is 1994 T5 box one with three button light switches if this helps.

Any ideas, as i think the hazard relay unit is jammed on one side, and i really do not want to take the dash top off (my hands are massive)if perhaps i have missed something blindingly obvious.

Cheers

[Cider Andy]

When you indicate left, what happens to the right indicators? Do they stay on or go off? Also, if you do this with the ignition off? The only way I can imagine this happening with the ignition off is through an internal fault in the indicator stalk. Try disconnecting it: you need to remove the cowling around the ignition switch (three or four screws) first. It's easier than removing the dash top...

[robmarrs]

Hi Andy

Ignition on:-
Right side stays on solid, left side blinks when indicating.
The interesting thing is the indicator tell tale arrow on the dash is solid on the right and flashes on the left.

Ignition off:-
Right side stays on solid, left side nothing.

This all started last night when i turned the alarm off and opened the door very rapidly afterwards to put it back in the garage.

[FlipFlopGriff]

Diode problem? Or would this affect both sides?
Earth is the only thing I can think off but I'm no sparky. Run a seperate earth to see if it makes any difference.
FFG

[Cider Andy]

Just to be clear:

Ignition off, LH indicator on, what happens with RH indicator?
Ignition on, LH indicator on, what happens with RH indicator?

Does switching to main beam at the indicator stalk make a difference?

I thought about the diodes or a bad earth too but I can't reconcile what's happening with the circuit logic.

What I hadn't considered is an alarm fault: that would now seem the most likely.

[paulathome]

I would have thought that if the indicators are on, even with ignition off then it must be something around the 4 way hazard flashers or hazard light switch as these are not controlled by the ignition switch.
Or as FFG said the diode has gone short on that side.
Paul.

[Barkychoc]

Does the alarm flash the indicators when you turn it on/off?
If so could be a stuck relay in the alarm (contacts welded themselves together) especially if it is a weedy little relay that isn't up to the job.

If you know where the alarm box is, and you can poke it with something like a bit of broom handle try giving it a whack. It will probably happen again though.

Edited by Barkychoc on Wednesday 28th May 19:27

[robmarrs]

Cider Andy said:

Just to be clear:

Ignition off, LH indicator on, what happens with RH indicator?
Ignition on, LH indicator on, what happens with RH indicator?

Does switching to main beam at the indicator stalk make a difference?

I thought about the diodes or a bad earth too but I can't reconcile what's happening with the circuit logic.

What I hadn't considered is an alarm fault: that would now seem the most likely.

Ignition off, LH indicator on, what happens with RH indicator? ......all three right hand side lights permanently on .... not blinking
Ignition on, LH indicator on, what happens with RH indicator? .......all three right hand side lights permanently on .... not blinking.

Main bean - not tried.

I agree with the diodes or bad earth comment, particularly as i have cleaned all front earthing points and used new bolts a few months ago when i had the rad out and fitted a leven jump kit.

Yep i think alarm, or hazard relay having looked a the bible wiring diagram. I guess the alarm is wired to the hazard unit to make all lights flash - i can see a dash top removal coming up - any volunteer helpers?

Thanks

[robmarrs]

UPDATE:-

Replaced all the Relays under dash top.

Everything looked dandy, when i came back to her and turned the alarm off, all the indicators on ther offside solid amber again.

Now suspect alarm system, spoke to car & bike instalations ltd. yes it is the alarm system. £500.00 to fix.... Bummer.

[robmarrs]

UPDATE.

New Meta Alarm & Immobilizer fitted by Car & Bike Installations.
£550.00

Also had fitted remote boot release on a key fob, which works with the ignition off.

[K4TRV]

Snippity: Is the list of things that go wrong with TVR's endless? In my 7 months of ownership so much has gone wrong i am really starting to regret selling my RS2000, the only up side is at least the TVR is driveable as the Escort was engineless for 6 years.

Snip

All's well that ends well................It's a case of TVR Ownership Evolution.

We all end up with what we really wanted originally, not really the car's fault.

But if all TVRs had been built with Remote boot/door openings, aluminimum switch gear, digital indicators, led lights, silicon hoses, 200K mile camshafts, non-rust outriggers, lomg-life suspension bushes, infinately adjustable dampers, then I'm sure they would all be 100% reliable...........(oh, and all blue in colour!!)

Trev McM

[robmarrs]

[quote=K4TRV](oh, and all blue in colour!!)

Blue - what do you mean? FORD?

Edited by robmarrs on Thursday 4th September 10:35

[K4TRV]

The most reliable and fastest TVRs are Blue in colour ??

[robmarrs]

K4TRV said:

The most reliable and fastest TVRs are Blue in colour ??

I obviously buggered up buying a green one then. Did look at a blue one - rusty outriggers!

My Overfinch RR is blue, right engine wrong chassis i guess.