Power steering or no power steering!
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Your thoughts please on whether a chim with no power steering would put you of a purchase, or turn you on as it were! Just about to put the 3rd one i have owned on the market. Its a 96 P in "dark" blue with light grey leather, 58,000 in stunning condition and no PAS. Personally the lack of PAS does not bother me. What are your thoughts to it desireability and price range.
Many Thanks,
Matt
Many Thanks,
Matt
Well when i bought my Chim it was the fact that it didn't have pas that i bought it, the reason being................when i went to pull away it would help me to realise i was in the Chim and not some eurobox........looking back at it now it seems a stupid reason, but have said to myself plenty of times since that my next TVR WILL have pas.
When I first got mine, I found it hard turning the wheel when parking but after four and a half years don't even notice it now (got arms like popeye now though).
Have never tried a Chimaera with PS but have driven and owned a few cars with PS and prefer my Chimaera's steering - it seems so positive and gives a great feel and feedback to what is going on, always felt this was a bit lost with PS cars and was the reason when buying I only looked at non PS.
I also think it's more in keeping with the concept of the car, as I beleave it was an optional extra on the original purchess.
I equally understand why some people would prefer it but don't see how it will affect a sale.
Have never tried a Chimaera with PS but have driven and owned a few cars with PS and prefer my Chimaera's steering - it seems so positive and gives a great feel and feedback to what is going on, always felt this was a bit lost with PS cars and was the reason when buying I only looked at non PS.
I also think it's more in keeping with the concept of the car, as I beleave it was an optional extra on the original purchess.
I equally understand why some people would prefer it but don't see how it will affect a sale.
non-PAS gets my vote too. Steering is light and responsive at speed which more than compensates for heaviness parking in town. I have thought about changing to PAS but the unreliability of the PAS system, cost of the TVR rack etc. make this unlikely. Racing Green have an expensive electrical PAS system which is speed sensitive but at £2k I don't think many will take this route, although it sounds like the best option yet.
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
GTvr said:
I also think it's more in keeping with the concept of the car, as I beleave it was an optional extra on the original purchess.
Standard from 98 on.Glyn.
The Hood said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
GTvr said:
I also think it's more in keeping with the concept of the car, as I beleave it was an optional extra on the original purchess.
Standard from 98 on.Glyn.
Dave.
Sam Gamgee said:
The Hood said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
GTvr said:
I also think it's more in keeping with the concept of the car, as I beleave it was an optional extra on the original purchess.
Standard from 98 on.Glyn.
I took delivery of a March 98 500, and I really really wanted it without power steering. In the end I managed it by begging with Peter Wheeler himself at that year's motor show. (He wasn't so bothered about the manufacture, it was knocking off the £980 they had added to the price for making the PAS standard that was the sticking point!)
Edited by 2 sMoKiN bArReLs on Saturday 7th June 16:54
NO ONE EVER CHANGES THE BLOODY OIL(especially garages)owners just moan when it goes tits up 
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Sam Gamgee said:
The Hood said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
GTvr said:
I also think it's more in keeping with the concept of the car, as I beleave it was an optional extra on the original purchess.
Standard from 98 on.Glyn.
I took delivery of a March 98 500, and I really really wanted it without power steering. In the end I managed it by begging with Peter Wheeler himself at that year's motor show. (He wasn't so bothered about the manufacture, it was knocking off the £980 they had added to the price for making the PAS standard that was the sticking point!)
Edited by 2 sMoKiN bArReLs on Saturday 7th June 16:54
Markh said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Sam Gamgee said:
The Hood said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
GTvr said:
I also think it's more in keeping with the concept of the car, as I beleave it was an optional extra on the original purchess.
Standard from 98 on.Glyn.
I took delivery of a March 98 500, and I really really wanted it without power steering. In the end I managed it by begging with Peter Wheeler himself at that year's motor show. (He wasn't so bothered about the manufacture, it was knocking off the £980 they had added to the price for making the PAS standard that was the sticking point!)
Edited by 2 sMoKiN bArReLs on Saturday 7th June 16:54
probably all they had in the parts bin on that day! 
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Markh said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Sam Gamgee said:
The Hood said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
GTvr said:
I also think it's more in keeping with the concept of the car, as I beleave it was an optional extra on the original purchess.
Standard from 98 on.Glyn.
I took delivery of a March 98 500, and I really really wanted it without power steering. In the end I managed it by begging with Peter Wheeler himself at that year's motor show. (He wasn't so bothered about the manufacture, it was knocking off the £980 they had added to the price for making the PAS standard that was the sticking point!)
Edited by 2 sMoKiN bArReLs on Saturday 7th June 16:54
probably all they had in the parts bin on that day! My first ('94 400) Chimaera didn't have PAS - and although it was ok, and you get used to it, it did made parking a bit of a chore sometimes. The PAS only privides very subtle assistance - helps with parking/slow manouvering but barely noticeable otherwise. When I bought my next 400 and current 450 PAS was one of the spec items I looked for...I'd have been reluctant to buy one without, and when I've sold Chims it does seem to be one of the first questions from buyers.
However, it does depend on your mix of driving...if you are only on long runs and dont do town driving then you probably dont really need PAS.
However, it does depend on your mix of driving...if you are only on long runs and dont do town driving then you probably dont really need PAS.
nig-gtv said:
My first ('94 400) Chimaera didn't have PAS - and although it was ok, and you get used to it, it did made parking a bit of a chore sometimes. The PAS only privides very subtle assistance - helps with parking/slow manouvering but barely noticeable otherwise. When I bought my next 400 and current 450 PAS was one of the spec items I looked for...I'd have been reluctant to buy one without, and when I've sold Chims it does seem to be one of the first questions from buyers.
However, it does depend on your mix of driving...if you are only on long runs and dont do town driving then you probably dont really need PAS.
I would agree totallyHowever, it does depend on your mix of driving...if you are only on long runs and dont do town driving then you probably dont really need PAS.
John.T. said:
If you have the correct tyre pressures then the PAS is nicely weighted and suits the Chim very well. I have driven both and chose the PAS one.
I found the PAS on a car I test drove far too 'assisted', I have a Corsa electric steering column and the control pack (can dial in amounts of assistance at various speeds) which I'm going to have fitted later this year. One question though, is the PAS rack the same ratio as a non PAS rack?Markh said:
John.T. said:
If you have the correct tyre pressures then the PAS is nicely weighted and suits the Chim very well. I have driven both and chose the PAS one.
I found the PAS on a car I test drove far too 'assisted', I have a Corsa electric steering column and the control pack (can dial in amounts of assistance at various speeds) which I'm going to have fitted later this year. One question though, is the PAS rack the same ratio as a non PAS rack?Gassing Station | Chimaera | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff