ACT Induction kit how do you fit it !
ACT Induction kit how do you fit it !
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bigdods

Original Poster:

7,175 posts

258 months

Saturday 28th June 2008
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Can someone thats fitted one put me out of my misery please. Ive fitted the plenum to AFM piece just needed a bit of trimming. But the bit to the front I just cant work out. I have put the silicon pipe into the nosecone with the metal pipe inserted and jubilee clipped in. But I cant find any way of making that metal pipe fit through the hole into the engine bay to attach to the long pipe.

SO Im down to two options. Just put the old pipe back in (my preferred one at this stage!) and bin the other pipes or take a hacksaw to the fibreglass to make the hole a bit bigger but before I do thought I'd best check and see if Im missing some trick here ?

Hmm thats about an hours work I though 2 hours ago ... and boy is fibreglass sharp !

Cheers

Dodsy

chrispitman

742 posts

285 months

Saturday 28th June 2008
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Thats what I thought a few months back, took ages in the end.

Make shure the metal joiner fits through the hole with about 1mm clerance had to file mine a little, then put the joiner in the nose cone part you have to do the clip up when in front of rad, then it's a bit of a brute force exercise to fit, you can get part of the metal joiner in the hole but can't get the right angle to slide through, so I put a piece of wood engine side in the metal joiner and leavered it round until is sprung in (this was with the bonnet off so you may need two people) when fitted the cone part touches up gainst the front of the car.

bigdods

Original Poster:

7,175 posts

258 months

Saturday 28th June 2008
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Bloody hell, I thought it would just be a fit and forget job. Ok thats pretty much made my mind up, I'll have one more go but if that doesnt work the old pipes going back on. Im going to run out of plasters for my fingers at this rate !

Now I remember why I pay the specialists to do all the jobs for me hehe

bigdods

Original Poster:

7,175 posts

258 months

Saturday 28th June 2008
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chrispitman said:
then it's a bit of a brute force exercise to fit, you can get part of the metal joiner in the hole but can't get the right angle to slide through, so I put a piece of wood engine side in the metal joiner and leavered it round until is sprung in (this was with the bonnet off so you may need two people) when fitted the cone part touches up gainst the front of the car.
Cheers for the advice, did exactly the same and it worked a treat, had the front bit done in 5 mins ! Now if I could just have borrowed someone with very small hands to do the engine bay piece....

Finally got it all together than realised I didnt have a cable tie to hold the pipe in place, so thats the last job for tomorrow morning and its all done.

  • phew*

AlRaven

408 posts

240 months

Sunday 29th June 2008
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B*gger! I've just bought this kit as well, thinking it was a simple job for even a mechanical moron like me. still, forewarned is forearmed now so cheers all!

V8 Animal

6,015 posts

241 months

Sunday 29th June 2008
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How much are these kits and what improvements have you found.
Thanks
V8 Animal

bigdods

Original Poster:

7,175 posts

258 months

Sunday 29th June 2008
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From what I've read the important bit is the 90 degree bend from the plenum to the AFM, apparently that can gain you a few HP and make things a bit smoother. As for the rest of the pipes from the AFM to the front, well it seemed a good idea at the time. I dont thing you gain anything from replacing the AFM to front pipes apart from getting rid of the crappy vaccum cleaner hose style induction pipe.

I did manage to fit it all in the end and knowing what I know now of course it wouldnt take long to do next time. The only think I'm worried about now is that the pipe is much thicker than the old one, so sits closer to the exhaust manifold. Now it has a nice heat reflecting blanket on but Ive had to cable tie around the outside of that to hold it all in place. Hopefully the cable ties wont melt !

bigdods

Original Poster:

7,175 posts

258 months

Sunday 29th June 2008
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AlRaven said:
B*gger! I've just bought this kit as well, thinking it was a simple job for even a mechanical moron like me. still, forewarned is forearmed now so cheers all!
Two top tips - The instructions supplied say you may have to trim the pipes. I had to take about an inch off of the 90 degree pipe and the same from the one in the nose. I did this by cutting off a bit at a time, next time I would be brave and just cut the right amount off first time saving lots of faffing about. The other one is regards previous advice on filing the bulkhead hole a bit bigger, then using a block of wood inside the metal tube to force it into place. It really works !.

Wildfire

9,951 posts

283 months

Sunday 29th June 2008
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Have you tried ringing ACT? I'm sure thet'd be happy to advise

bigdods

Original Poster:

7,175 posts

258 months

Sunday 29th June 2008
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Well I would of course normally ring ACT and I know they are great at helping but I didnt think 6pm on a saturday was an ideal time. But as usual PH to the rescue all fitted :-) Just need to run her around and get up to temp to make sure the cable tie doesnt melt. That will probably be a temporary solution I'm thinking a metal strap might be a better idea.

V8 Animal

6,015 posts

241 months

Sunday 29th June 2008
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Wildfire said:
Have you tried ringing ACT? I'm sure thet'd be happy to advise
Went to ask them today after the drive out and they had gone will ring them instead.
V8 Animal

daz the plumber

14,997 posts

262 months

Sunday 29th June 2008
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act are not the only ones who supply these induction kits, you can get the 90 degree bends from most places in blue and a third of the price !

daz the plumber

14,997 posts

262 months

Sunday 29th June 2008
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for got to say i got some of that heat shield matarial from fleabay , wrapped it in sections and then used foil tape ...the air does stay cooler and protects it from the manifolds, at the same time removed the afm and cut a square of alumimum and covered it with the matarial , placed it under the afm and drilled a couple of holes and fixed it with self tappers .the afm stays nice and cool .ive ordered two lovely shiny heat shields to protect the belts, pully and alternator from steve heath .

bigdods

Original Poster:

7,175 posts

258 months

Sunday 29th June 2008
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So has anyone else used a plastic cable tie to hold the pipe in place - basically replacing the old cable tie with a new one ? And if so , any problems with melting ?

daz the plumber

14,997 posts

262 months

Monday 30th June 2008
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why do you need cable ties , i re drilled the air filter bracket beacause just could not get it to fit , its a fight fitting the kit . i had to cut some metal away next to the radiator

ACT

2,529 posts

315 months

Monday 30th June 2008
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Happy to help anybody with fitting problems, call me on 01342 311790


daz the plumber said:
act are not the only ones who supply these induction kits, you can get the 90 degree bends from most places in blue and a third of the price !
Our's are £27 !!, i think you're looking at the wrong product on our website ?.(reducing elbow 82-74) you can also get silicone versions but more expensive.

Tim ACT

That Daddy

19,463 posts

252 months

Monday 30th June 2008
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I must say guys i had no problem fitting the ACT kit,Tim had already warned me about possibly having to trim a little off the hoses if necessary to fit(better to long than to small i guess)but my bonnet was off at the time but i did not need to get brutal with any of it,you may also find that the cheaper silicone hoses(Ebay etc etc) dont have much stiffness and are prone to collapsing,basically there are silicone hoses and silicone hoses and quality varies greatly eek

snorky

2,322 posts

282 months

Monday 30th June 2008
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bigdods said:
From what I've read the important bit is the 90 degree bend from the plenum to the AFM, apparently that can gain you a few HP and make things a bit smoother. As for the rest of the pipes from the AFM to the front, well it seemed a good idea at the time. I dont thing you gain anything from replacing the AFM to front pipes apart from getting rid of the crappy vaccum cleaner hose style induction pipe.

I did manage to fit it all in the end and knowing what I know now of course it wouldnt take long to do next time. The only think I'm worried about now is that the pipe is much thicker than the old one, so sits closer to the exhaust manifold. Now it has a nice heat reflecting blanket on but Ive had to cable tie around the outside of that to hold it all in place. Hopefully the cable ties wont melt !
one big advantage is the old pipe is a 2 layer one and the inside layer eventually collapses and can restrict airflow at high speeds but cannot be seen due to outside layer and springy wire stuff...

m4rk

330 posts

271 months

Monday 30th June 2008
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I must be one of the lucky ones. I fitted the kit without assistance, without filing, drilling holes etc. Just needed to trim the length of the pipes in places. The parts in the nose cone up to the air filter were a bit of a fiddle.

The pipes running up the engine bay next to the exhaust were tie wrapped to fix in place, using the existing clip to loop the tie through. I do not think it will melt. Hasn't so far and if I remember correctly it has always been tie wrapped there.

bigdods

Original Poster:

7,175 posts

258 months

Monday 30th June 2008
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m4rk said:
The pipes running up the engine bay next to the exhaust were tie wrapped to fix in place, using the existing clip to loop the tie through. I do not think it will melt. Hasn't so far and if I remember correctly it has always been tie wrapped there.
Thats the cable tie I was worried about, but it sounds like it will be ok :-)