chimaera camshaft
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quattrophenia

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1,103 posts

229 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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I am looking at joining the club and getting my first Chim at some point. Most models are now at about 30,000+ miles. From what I have established, by 40,000 miles the cams usually need replacing? Is this a rule of thumb or can the cams last a lot longer.
I don't mind spending money on a good one but don't fancy replacing the cams until I've had a bit of fun out of it first. Are all the engine sizes the same for cam wear or are some better than others. If the cams do need replacing, how difficult a job is it and what are the best cams to use.

griffter

4,143 posts

286 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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There's only one camshaft for starters. Some engines will do 100k miles on a cam, others seem to go very much earlier. I guess it's a question of different wear due to different oil, driving habits and maintenance.
IMHO if the cam's alright when you buy a car (ascertained with a compression test I guess, because inspection requires significant disassembly) it should continue to be alright if you use the right oil, treat the engine sympathetically, and maintain it properly.
Cam change is quite involved and includes more new bits than just the camshaft. You also need to set the lifter preloads which by all accounts is a faff.

snorky

2,322 posts

282 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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dependant on the car....mine's done 52K and still pulls like a train...

WokingWedger

1,030 posts

236 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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97K pulls like a train !

any advance ?

Oops 91K (got muddled up with my wifes car)

Edited by WokingWedger on Wednesday 27th August 07:37

bigdods

7,175 posts

258 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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42k here and no sign of any wear yet, I am expecting the cams to last at least 80k miles ! Some wear earlier other go for longer.

bobs4c

314 posts

269 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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I understand that some cars with very low mileage are likely to be the ones requiring an early cam change. All the oil drains away when parked up, so you get wear.

I'm at 67k with the original cam and use the car frequentlysmile

Bob

Derek Smith

50,010 posts

279 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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It is true that the cam is a weak spot of the RV8 although 60,000 is normally the watershed.

Regular oil changes, at least annually regardless of mileage, with decent quality oil is a way of putting replacement off. Also, as pointed out, is regular running, as is keeping the revs down when the engine is cold.

100+k is not that unusual on the original cam, although this is often with engines that are used regularly. But then, if they are not used regularly there's less chance of them having 100k on the clock I suppose. Given the cost of replacement it's not what you might call a major deterrent to ownership.

The only other known weak spot is the bores. This is not a problem with 3.5 engines but once it was bored out to 3.9, the liners became 'borderline' and pourosity is an issue. The larger engines sizes are via extended throws of the crank. I've read that the 5.0 and above can give rise to piston slap but most people I've talked to say this is rubbish.

Replacement engines are cheap. Certainly under £3000 for a standard one is easy enough to find.

What is true about the RV8 is that if you are sensible there is no reason to expect problems. It is a very reliable engine. Mind you, I'd avoid any engine you can hear ticking at a distance. Buy on condition.

But, of course, anyone can be unlucky. I've got 57000 on my 4.0 at the moment so I'll let you know.

nig-gtv

518 posts

266 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Seems to be slightly more of an issue on 450s than 400s, though not sure why. Not sure about 500s.

That Daddy

19,463 posts

252 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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WokingWedger said:
97K pulls like a train !

any advance ?
Yes,122k on original,although very slight pitting and signs of slight wear on three lobes(checked with recent sump removal)and still spins up to 6k no problem(HC cammed) hehe i have been all round this engine and its had no work and with all the receipts i have i have no evidence to prove otherwise(one of the reasons i purchased the car was the fact it had not been frigged about with)well unless by me thumbupand dont let them idle when cold try to keep the revs over 2k,what i am really saying is start the car and drive off dont let it warm up on idle unless you like losing cam lobes rolleyes

Edited by That Daddy on Tuesday 26th August 21:34

TVRobin

141 posts

243 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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That Daddy said:
WokingWedger said:
97K pulls like a train !

any advance ?
dont let them idle when cold try to keep the revs over 2k,what i am really saying is start the car and drive off dont let it warm up on idle unless you like losing cam lobes rolleyes

Edited by That Daddy on Tuesday 26th August 21:34
Why do you say that?

GAVC

163 posts

258 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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75k on a 1998 450 Chim and pulling like 2 trains..... new MC1 cam you see as fitted by Topcats racingshoot

Cam was knackered but still ran it daily for 5k miles, just slow old girl but now rabid againbowtie

rev-erend

21,624 posts

315 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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I don't think you can use that as an excuse to stop you going out and enjoying yourself in one of the finest British made sports cars ever made. They are also at a very good price now - so no excuses.

scotty_d

6,795 posts

225 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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Changing the cam is not that big a job if you tackle it in the right frame of mind and it can be done with the engine still in the car. fiddley job but can be done and save your self a small fortune. just be sure to put in the correct cam as one of my friends found out and had to start again. he is now quit fast at changing chim cams

Edited by scotty_d on Thursday 28th August 12:25