Which Alarm System do I need?

[didge2]

Hi folks,
I've bought a 1997 TVR Chimaera ( http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am... )
Unfortunatly the alarm/immobilizer/remote-control box under the dash is absent (see here http://juette.de/tvr2/dash02.jpg )

The doors open only by the hidden knob under the mirror but I'd like to close it by remote control (cause IF somebody knows it...).

So I just want to buy and repair the central locking with key fobs (alarm and immobilizer is not so important for me)

But I wonder which Alarm System was built in 1997 by TVR:
- Meta systems M99T
- Meta T2
- or even Meta systems M99T/2
I think they are not compatible and I dont want to buy twice.

Please dont write "contact Carl" - I wrote him several mails ind the last weeks but he dosn't answer.

Maybe I only need some parts from here
http://www.tvrshop.com/product-subsection.asp?Make...
or here
http://www.abacuscaralarms.co.uk/store/view_produc...

Could You give me a hint ?

thanks
didge2

Edited by didge2 on Wednesday 27th August 13:11

[dlewis]

Peter

My April '98 is a M99T.

As I understand it T2 is much later and will not fit.

That narrows it down a bit.

Also check for the booklet or the Meta red card that comes with the car.

Dave

[didge2]

dlewis said:

My April '98 is a M99T.

Thanks - I think that I 've got the same.

dlewis said:

Also check for the booklet or the Meta red card that comes with the car.

no red card in the booklet - I found only the Remote Key Fob No. at page 4
- but without any meta system under the dashboard I guess it is'nt much worth.

Edited by didge2 on Wednesday 27th August 14:02

[nawarne]

Unfortunately, Carl is occaisionally hard to reach by email.
The best way is to 'phone him.....and by the sounds of it arrange a visit. Having said that, he is pretty good at diagnosing over the 'phone.
Nick

[didge2]

nawarne said:

Unfortunately, Carl is occaisionally hard to reach by email.
The best way is to 'phone him.....and by the sounds of it arrange a visit. Having said that, he is pretty good at diagnosing over the 'phone.
Nick

It is hard to travel through 4 countries (I am from Dresden - Germany) cause a alarm unit...
And last but not least is my spoken english not the best but I'll try it again.

[Ribol]

If you have no need for an alarm/immobilser unit then all you need is a remote locking/unlocking unit to operate two door motors. The four motors fitted are all "slaves"

As you probably already know the two buttons operate two motors to pop each of the doors.
The knob inside tha car works via cables.
A remote locking/unlocking unit would then operate the other two motors to lock/unlock the car.

This is not a hard job to do, hope this makes sense?

[pilgrim13]

If you're not bothered about the alarm/immob you need one of these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Car-Keyless-Remote-Control-E...
I've fitted a number of these and they're reasonably simple to fit, they have a boot opening facility to also which you should be able to use to do away with the button under the dash. I've just bought one to use it just for the boot.

[Ribol]

pilgrim13 said:

If you're not bothered about the alarm/immob you need one of these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Car-Keyless-Remote-Control-E...
I've fitted a number of these and they're reasonably simple to fit, they have a boot opening facility to also which you should be able to use to do away with the button under the dash. I've just bought one to use it just for the boot.

It is cheap, but you cannot buy a decent remote locking interface for that money.

[pilgrim13]

Ribol said:

pilgrim13 said:

If you're not bothered about the alarm/immob you need one of these
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Car-Keyless-Remote-Control-E...
I've fitted a number of these and they're reasonably simple to fit, they have a boot opening facility to also which you should be able to use to do away with the button under the dash. I've just bought one to use it just for the boot.

It is cheap, but you cannot buy a decent remote locking interface for that money.

All I can say is that I've had one on my Laguna estate for 3 years and it still works fine, at that price even if you have to replace it every 12 months its cheap

[thenick]

I put this one ( http://abacuscaralarms.co.uk/store/view_product.ph... ) in my Chim a few months back and have to say I'm very happy with it. Its very small, simple (don't bother with the wireless stuff), and just works. Not a bad price too - Abacus also sell the Meta M99 but advised me that this line of alarms is more reliable and has better features in their opinion. I'd tend to agree with them - Very easy to wire up to the boot solenoid so it works off the fob now as well...

[mchenryg]

Hi Mark
I have also purchased one from fleabay. Have you fitted yours to the boot yet. I havent even had the time to open it, so I have no idea what is ahead of me.

Giles.

[pilgrim13]

mchenryg said:

Hi Mark
I have also purchased one from fleabay. Have you fitted yours to the boot yet. I havent even had the time to open it, so I have no idea what is ahead of me.

Giles.

Not done it yet, job for this weekend, will report back when I've done it

[didge2]

thanks guys - I like the idea with the universal DIY system.
That would solve my main problem.

But before something burns ;-) does anybody know where the cables at the two white conectors going?
The bible says not very much about it.
I guess there should cables to central lock, light, horn and a couple of sensors...

[Ribol]

didge2 said:

thanks guys - I like the idea with the universal DIY system.
That would solve my main problem.

But before something burns ;-) does anybody know where the cables at the two white conectors going?
The bible says not very much about it.
I guess there should cables to central lock, light, horn and a couple of sensors...

If the alarm side of things is dead/safe then you could forget the alarm loom and go straight the to the central locking relay which is next to the alarm.

[thenick]

didge2 said:

thanks guys - I like the idea with the universal DIY system.
That would solve my main problem.

But before something burns ;-) does anybody know where the cables at the two white conectors going?
The bible says not very much about it.
I guess there should cables to central lock, light, horn and a couple of sensors...

Yup, they go all over the place. Easiest thing to do is get a bit of paper and a multimeter and go through each pin. Some are earths, some are for things like indicators, door locks, siren, 12v, ignition, immobiliser, microwave sensor etc. Just try each pin and turn ignition on/off, lock unlock etc until you see the multimeter register a change. It should be pretty simple to identify them and then you just need to label them, cut out the old alarm and wire in the new one. The immobiliser is pretty simple as well, it basically just cuts the wires to 3 systems so make sure you get an alarm which can close 3 circuits (the Autowatch one can).

Just make sure you've identified each wire and once you have, disconnect the battery before cutting anything. Go for it, you'll be fine!