big break conversion

[daz the plumber]

i just got my cosworth big break conversion from hans.i can`t believe the size of everything ,can any one give me some pointers as i don`t know where the spacers go .its all new ,callipers the lot .or do i need dutch courage lol

[That Daddy]

What calipers and disc conversion is it Daz?

[K4TRV]

That Daddy said:

What calipers and disc conversion is it Daz?

Cheeky bugger, more money in Plumming - must have been this one and I didn't get any 5% referral !!!

"daz, you need something larger to slow you down, try these: http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/695241.htm

I have no connection with it either, but wish I could get 5% referral !!.

I fitted 283mm Cossie Discs (£40 new) & calipers (Ebay @ £50), plus std ferodo pads, the large ones from halfrauds. Cold performance awesome as I mainly Sprint/Hill climb and everything is COLD !!

Yours richly..!!

Trev McM"

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Daz; You'll be compaining next your false teeth keep falling out when your break (brake !!)

Trev McM

[daz the plumber]

new chrome colour callipers (granada scorpio)old stock but new not recon ,think they are 272mm dics come with a new fitting kit washers bolts etc and new large pads .i was not happy with the 240 mm ebc turbo grooved .should they come with something else ,i thought i needed carriers .i have the ebc discs and nearly new front and rear green stuff pads for sale .there not those expensive ones but i thought these were worth every penny .contact hans if your interested, when the new wheels come they will look fantastic !
sorry i mean brake !

Edited by daz the plumber on Wednesday 12th November 23:16

Edited by daz the plumber on Wednesday 12th November 23:18

Edited by daz the plumber on Wednesday 12th November 23:26

[poorpeet]

Daz,
Sounds like you have the right calipers but you'll also need the correct carriers as well.
Also, the discs for this conversion are 283mm from the early 2 wheel drive Sierra Cosworth. The 272mm discs may be correct for the Granada but they have the wrong off set for this installation. That said, it it came as a kit they must have given you spacers etc to make it all work. Be interesting to see what they sent you.

Pete

[daz the plumber]

i received 2x 272 mm discs orig ford not patern, two massive new callipers ,four large delphi pads and a packet with two bolts washers and two spacers .is there something missing ?

[K4TRV]

If you want to fully utilise those big calipers you should use these:

https://sslrelay.com/buypartsby.co.uk/brake-pads-n...

They are 283 mm Cosworth discs, plain but ventilated. But they only cost £12.73 + vat each. I use them and have done on sprints/hill climbs and general driving. brilliant !!

Check your pile of bits and see what size the mounting bolts they have supplied. They may be 12 mm which are larger than originals. You will then have to drill out your mounting holes on the struts. Dead easy.

The washers/spacers are there if needed to ensure the calipers don't "touch" the discs.

Cheers

Trev McM

Edited by K4TRV on Thursday 13th November 14:21

[daz the plumber]

im still confused about the carriers , should they come with the kit and what do they look like ?

[GreenV8S]

Wouldn't these questions be better addressed to the person who sold you the kit? They're really the only people who can tell you whether you've got everything you need and how it's supposed to be fitted.

[poorpeet]

Daz,
this is what the carrier looks like
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&am...
AFIK a lot of the caliper bodies are the same and its the carrier that varies it's position to suit various applications.
I think I still have the 272mm discs from the Cossie that I got my calipers from. I'll try to find it and get some off set measurements from it for you.

[hansdaal]

I supplied the kit to Daz and ofcourse the carriers/sliders are in the kit. They came with the NEW calipers. It is a complete kit with small spacers to get the caliper in the centre of the disc. Sold quite a few of those set-ups and never had any fitting problems. Fits perfect. I use the 278 mm disc instead of the 283 Cossie Cosworth disc because the 283 mm disc is slightly too big in diameter and rubs against the slider/carrier and won't run freely. For perfect fitment you should mill it down 2 1/2 mm for perfect alignment with the outside of the brakepad. So no overhang.278 mm disc is (IMHO) the perfect size for the Cossy caliper and pads.

greetings

Hans.

[daz the plumber]

so that told you ,and its all ford oe stuff not any of that rubbish you have been showing me , he as one kit if any one wants it . cheapest upgrade you will ever get !

Edited by daz the plumber on Thursday 13th November 22:09

[AntonyJ]

hansdaal said:

I supplied the kit to Daz and ofcourse the carriers/sliders are in the kit. They came with the NEW calipers. It is a complete kit with small spacers to get the caliper in the centre of the disc. Sold quite a few of those set-ups and never had any fitting problems. Fits perfect. I use the 278 mm disc instead of the 283 Cossie Cosworth disc because the 283 mm disc is slightly too big in diameter and rubs against the slider/carrier and won't run freely. For perfect fitment you should mill it down 2 1/2 mm for perfect alignment with the outside of the brakepad. So no overhang.278 mm disc is (IMHO) the perfect size for the Cossy caliper and pads.

greetings

Hans.

I have run 283mm discs for 4 years with no problems Hans.

[V8 Animal]

Diplomatic Daz

[K4TRV]

V8 Animal said:

Diplomatic Daz

+1
Trev

[spend]

mmmm Ford stuff

[daz the plumber]

yes its all in real ford grease proof paper ,all new lol

[That Daddy]

AntonyJ said:

hansdaal said:

I supplied the kit to Daz and ofcourse the carriers/sliders are in the kit. They came with the NEW calipers. It is a complete kit with small spacers to get the caliper in the centre of the disc. Sold quite a few of those set-ups and never had any fitting problems. Fits perfect. I use the 278 mm disc instead of the 283 Cossie Cosworth disc because the 283 mm disc is slightly too big in diameter and rubs against the slider/carrier and won't run freely. For perfect fitment you should mill it down 2 1/2 mm for perfect alignment with the outside of the brakepad. So no overhang.278 mm disc is (IMHO) the perfect size for the Cossy caliper and pads.

greetings

Hans.

I have run 283mm discs for 4 years with no problems Hans.

yep no problems with fouling alignment etc in fact i would fit this conversion all day long.

[Pupp]

That Daddy said:

AntonyJ said:

hansdaal said:

I supplied the kit to Daz and ofcourse the carriers/sliders are in the kit. They came with the NEW calipers. It is a complete kit with small spacers to get the caliper in the centre of the disc. Sold quite a few of those set-ups and never had any fitting problems. Fits perfect. I use the 278 mm disc instead of the 283 Cossie Cosworth disc because the 283 mm disc is slightly too big in diameter and rubs against the slider/carrier and won't run freely. For perfect fitment you should mill it down 2 1/2 mm for perfect alignment with the outside of the brakepad. So no overhang.278 mm disc is (IMHO) the perfect size for the Cossy caliper and pads.

greetings

Hans.

I have run 283mm discs for 4 years with no problems Hans.

yep no problems with fouling alignment etc in fact i would fit this conversion all day long.

So, just to clarify, this conversion is using Ford single piston sliding calipers? Or is it the opposed 4 piston TVR style ones? If the former, why bother?

[That Daddy]

Pupp said:

That Daddy said:

AntonyJ said:

hansdaal said:

I supplied the kit to Daz and ofcourse the carriers/sliders are in the kit. They came with the NEW calipers. It is a complete kit with small spacers to get the caliper in the centre of the disc. Sold quite a few of those set-ups and never had any fitting problems. Fits perfect. I use the 278 mm disc instead of the 283 Cossie Cosworth disc because the 283 mm disc is slightly too big in diameter and rubs against the slider/carrier and won't run freely. For perfect fitment you should mill it down 2 1/2 mm for perfect alignment with the outside of the brakepad. So no overhang.278 mm disc is (IMHO) the perfect size for the Cossy caliper and pads.

greetings

Hans.

I have run 283mm discs for 4 years with no problems Hans.

yep no problems with fouling alignment etc in fact i would fit this conversion all day long.

So, just to clarify, this conversion is using Ford single piston sliding calipers? Or is it the opposed 4 piston TVR style ones? If the former, why bother?

Bigger pads(= more swept area) and bigger piston,and a huge improvment in braking power well it was from my stock 240mm set-up,my brother as the later brakes fitted(273mm fronts & vented bigger rears)and he noticed a more powerful feel,well obviously,cant knock it until you have driven a before and after comparison.

Edited by That Daddy on Friday 14th November 09:40