alarm question
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Yes, but you might then fail to meet the cat1/2 requirements of your Insurance? Its not too hard, but all the wires are black or yellow (part of the spec!) so take care.
Typical circuits protected by the immobilizer are starter, fuel pump and occasionally ECU. If you are worried about load through the immobilizer use relays - you can always hot-wire across the relay terminals if you want to circumvent the immobilizer
Typical circuits protected by the immobilizer are starter, fuel pump and occasionally ECU. If you are worried about load through the immobilizer use relays - you can always hot-wire across the relay terminals if you want to circumvent the immobilizer

Yes the immobiliser will unplug from the M99 Meta. Why would you want to do it though? The only problem is that as Spend has said, you'll need to bypass the immobiliser as I'm sure it will leave all circuits broken when disconnected. From my experience, it immobilises the fuel pump, starter and inertia switch circuits, so these all need to be traced and reconnected. Pretty easy if you know where to look but having replaced mine a while back, it is a pretty secure system and would be very hard to steal unless you had exactly the right tools, knew where to look and had quite a long time to do it!
If you're not happy working with vehicle electrics, best off speaking to Carl Baker as said before (www.tvruk.tv) - Very helpful bloke even if you just ring him for some advice before attempting it yourself
If you're not happy working with vehicle electrics, best off speaking to Carl Baker as said before (www.tvruk.tv) - Very helpful bloke even if you just ring him for some advice before attempting it yourself

spend said:
you can always hot-wire across the relay terminals if you want to circumvent the immobilizer 
Do you have a different alarm to mine then Spend? I had a Meta M99 and all relays were enclosed in the sealed immobiliser brick which its self was found to be nowhere near the alarm its self. To circumvent it, you need to cut all wires and start from scratch as they're all black!
450Nick said:
spend said:
you can then always hot-wire across the relay terminals if you want to circumvent the immobilizer 
Do you have a different alarm to mine then Spend? I had a Meta M99 and all relays were enclosed in the sealed immobiliser brick which its self was found to be nowhere near the alarm its self. To circumvent it, you need to cut all wires and start from scratch as they're all black!

thanks for replys
it is so hit and miss to make it work that it has to go
small loading on insurance but nothing compared to the time i spend
wiggeling the fob about every day
should be easy as am trained meta motorcycle alarm fitter
just wanted to make sure is was could be done before i get out the cutters!!
it is so hit and miss to make it work that it has to go
small loading on insurance but nothing compared to the time i spend
wiggeling the fob about every day
should be easy as am trained meta motorcycle alarm fitter
just wanted to make sure is was could be done before i get out the cutters!!
You might be better off just replacing the whole system then? Mine was doing a similar thing so I bought and installed one of these alarms: http://abacuscaralarms.co.uk/store/view_product.ph...
I spoke to Abacus about the Meta and he said he does sell the M99 new version which is very good, but in his opinion, this one is more reliable, smaller and generally neater. I have to say I agree and having used it for a year and a half now, its performed absolutely flawlessly. It has a tiny alarm box so frees up a bit of space under the dash and also has three separate immobilised circuits as with the Meta so once traced, the old wires can simply be transferred to the new unit. I even managed to sell the old M99 alarm box (not the immobiliser) back to Carl Baker for £30 IIRC so saved a bit more cash. For £120 and a couple of hours of my time it was well worth it I think
I spoke to Abacus about the Meta and he said he does sell the M99 new version which is very good, but in his opinion, this one is more reliable, smaller and generally neater. I have to say I agree and having used it for a year and a half now, its performed absolutely flawlessly. It has a tiny alarm box so frees up a bit of space under the dash and also has three separate immobilised circuits as with the Meta so once traced, the old wires can simply be transferred to the new unit. I even managed to sell the old M99 alarm box (not the immobiliser) back to Carl Baker for £30 IIRC so saved a bit more cash. For £120 and a couple of hours of my time it was well worth it I think

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