Oil Pressure build-up in Serp Engine?
Oil Pressure build-up in Serp Engine?
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Andy JB

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1,321 posts

250 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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Can anyone confirm if its possible to build up the oil pressure in a Serp engine, after laid-up period, by simply removing the coil wire?

If not, is there a fuss free way to create this before ignition on teh Serp ?

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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Its better to reduce compression by removing the plugs wink Pulling the fuel pump relay is also advised..

Don't overdo it, it's quite demanding on the starter for long periods.

Probably the reason many of us have investigated / implemented oil accumulators, take offs to rig up external pumps etc.....

GreenV8S

31,027 posts

315 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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Cranking over without oil isn't good for it either. Just start it.

thegman

1,928 posts

235 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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why would you want to do this? a wet sump engine normally wouldn't require such pre-lubing.

Liked saying lubing.

That Daddy

19,464 posts

252 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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Just start it after the lay-up and run at 2k approx(taking the loading off the cam gear)the oil pressure will pop up straight away,dont just let it fire and idle straight away(bad for the Cam train)if you crank & crank with no plugs fitted till you have oil pressure all you will achieve is taking possibly thousands of miles off your dry cam & followers all IMHO of course.

Edited by That Daddy on Thursday 18th December 15:11

Uncle Fester

3,114 posts

239 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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I've heard this 2k thing for camshaft kindness before.

Never heard an explanation why 2k though.

Anyone explain?

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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Follower digs into the ramp until its all up & spinning nicely(follower rotates as well), not forgetting it also takes a bit for the cam lobes & followers to get oiled at startup.

That Daddy

19,464 posts

252 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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spend said:
Follower digs into the ramp until its all up & spinning nicely(follower rotates as well), not forgetting it also takes a bit for the cam lobes & followers to get oiled at startup.
yes getting back to what Uncle Fester said though.....2K is not a magic figure you just need to run up onto fast idle 1800rpm up to 2500rpm approx would also be fine i guess,just dont let it sit at idle for the 1st couple of minutes after long periods of non use at 1st startup thumbup Cam & follower wear is inevitable but you dont want to give it a help in hand if you can help it.

Edited by That Daddy on Thursday 18th December 17:40

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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That Daddy said:
spend said:
Follower digs into the ramp until its all up & spinning nicely(follower rotates as well), not forgetting it also takes a bit for the cam lobes & followers to get oiled at startup.
yesgetting back to what Uncle Fester said though.....2K is not a magic figure you just need to run up onto fast idle 1800rpm up to 2500rpm approx would also be fine i guess,just dont let it sit at idle for the 1st couple of minutes after long periods of non use at 1st startup thumbup Cam & follower wear is inevitable but you dont want to give it a help in hand if you can help it.

Edited by That Daddy on Thursday 18th December 17:40
It was in response to what Fester asked... :yawwwwwnnnnn:

Bluebottle

3,498 posts

271 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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the other reason is that the cam followers wont spin below 1500rpm so you want the revs above that so you don't get uneven wear on the followers stopping them from spinning which will in turn wear the cam out quicker....or so I was told by someone more learned than me

Chimjunkie

2,879 posts

242 months

Thursday 18th December 2008
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Bluebottle said:
the other reason is that the cam followers wont spin below 1500rpm so you want the revs above that so you don't get uneven wear on the followers stopping them from spinning which will in turn wear the cam out quicker....or so I was told by someone more learned than me
Ah ha! is that why you should not idle them for prolonged periods? Just spent the day at North Weald air field pissing about in the ice and was not happy with the significant time i was sat about idling. Must have idled for over 3 hours that day!

That Daddy

19,464 posts

252 months

Friday 19th December 2008
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spend said:
That Daddy said:
spend said:
Follower digs into the ramp until its all up & spinning nicely(follower rotates as well), not forgetting it also takes a bit for the cam lobes & followers to get oiled at startup.
yesgetting back to what Uncle Fester said though.....2K is not a magic figure you just need to run up onto fast idle 1800rpm up to 2500rpm approx would also be fine i guess,just dont let it sit at idle for the 1st couple of minutes after long periods of non use at 1st startup thumbup Cam & follower wear is inevitable but you dont want to give it a help in hand if you can help it.

Edited by That Daddy on Thursday 18th December 17:40
It was in response to what Fester asked... :yawwwwwnnnnn:
fk off tt

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Friday 19th December 2008
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That Daddy said:
fk off tt
I don't think so. rofl

I suppose things are looking up, you at least wrote something that wasn't painful to try and decipher :yawwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnn:

That Daddy

19,464 posts

252 months

Friday 19th December 2008
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loser

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Friday 19th December 2008
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That Daddy said:
loser
Yes, but Thank God I'm a literate 'loser' hehe

If I could get a C&G in English I wonder if that would make me a 'winner' scratchchinrofl

That Daddy

19,464 posts

252 months

Friday 19th December 2008
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spend said:
That Daddy said:
loser
Yes, but Thank God I'm a literate 'loser' hehe

If I could get a C&G in English I wonder if that would make me a 'winner' scratchchinrofl
Possibly wink but seeing as C&G aint worth a rub tongue out

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Friday 19th December 2008
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That Daddy said:
spend said:
That Daddy said:
loser
Yes, but Thank God I'm a literate 'loser' hehe

If I could get a C&G in English I wonder if that would make me a 'winner' scratchchinrofl
Possibly wink but seeing as C&G aint worth a rub tongue out
Luckily I don't possess any of them then, unlike some I don't over exercise my hand rofl

That Daddy

19,464 posts

252 months

Friday 19th December 2008
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spend said:
That Daddy said:
spend said:
That Daddy said:
loser
Yes, but Thank God I'm a literate 'loser' hehe

If I could get a C&G in English I wonder if that would make me a 'winner' scratchchinrofl
Possibly wink but seeing as C&G aint worth a rub tongue out
Luckily I don't possess any of them then, unlike some I don't over exercise my hand rofl
Thats not what i heard silly

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Friday 19th December 2008
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That Daddy said:
spend said:
That Daddy said:
spend said:
That Daddy said:
loser
Yes, but Thank God I'm a literate 'loser' hehe

If I could get a C&G in English I wonder if that would make me a 'winner' scratchchinrofl
Possibly wink but seeing as C&G aint worth a rub tongue out
Luckily I don't possess any of them then, unlike some I don't over exercise my hand rofl
Thats not what i heard silly
I've read that your hearing improves when you go blind hehe

That Daddy

19,464 posts

252 months

Friday 19th December 2008
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Thats better Spend,much kinder banter(playing nicely) wink just like the olden days laugh and i promise i wont swear anymore,besides i dont want to upset the mods