Sloooowwwwwww window.
Sloooowwwwwww window.
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squirrelz

Original Poster:

1,186 posts

287 months

Monday 11th February 2002
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I've noticed that the drivers window winds down just as fast as the passenger one, but winds up a lot slower - sometimes worry that it isn't going to make it!

I've had the speaker out to check that it's in the front guide ok, and it is. Is there anything else I can check, or is it a common fault/that's just the way it is?

Also found that the cigar lighter lights up with the headlights on now, and it didn't before I took the speaker out! Bizarre!

yum

529 posts

289 months

Monday 11th February 2002
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My driver's window is also considerably slower, and always has been. Always wondered why...

R

pbrettle

3,280 posts

299 months

Monday 11th February 2002
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Squirelz - loose wires - known issue. It is amazing what you can get to work when you check the connections! Took the lower part of the dash off the other week and now the full beam headlight warning light works!!! Hurrah.

Cheers,

Paul

V8BJC

318 posts

282 months

Monday 11th February 2002
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I have a Chimp 400 and the drivers window takes and age to get to the top. Did you find any solution to this problem. If so, please let me know.

Also, my cig lighter has come loose as the bolt has come off inside the door. Can anyone tell me if there is a way to get back on without pulling the door apart.

apache

39,731 posts

300 months

Monday 11th February 2002
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if you can get to the guides spray silicon lubricant on em, works a treat

squirrelz

Original Poster:

1,186 posts

287 months

Monday 11th February 2002
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Might try that when I change the speakers, then.

Can I not just vaseline the window edge and run it up and down ?

richb

54,275 posts

300 months

Monday 11th February 2002
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Well except for the fact that vaseline makes them all greasu and the silicon spray doesn't, and you don't have ot wait 'til you change the speakers just spry it on th eexposed bit of the runner.

Jason F

1,183 posts

300 months

Monday 11th February 2002
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Mine seems to stick a bit on the rubber that is there, is yours doing that ?

vinny

101 posts

283 months

Monday 11th February 2002
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Hi guys, bin following your problems, I had same slow at the last half syndrome, this is what I did to fix :-

Remove speaker put arm inside to left and right to locate 10MM bolts that hold door panel on and remove, a lesson in veternary practices wouldnt go a-miss here, locate and undo screw behind ashtray, there may be another but I've slept since I did this 3 months ago.

Once removed inner panel screws remove and locate the window winder motor.

Remove motor connector and clean with silicon spray then replace, done this just because I was there!.

At the bottom of the the motor is a long flexible screw drive which runs to the front of the door and up towards the a post. this gets water etc in it. You can carefully pull it out and run sum 3 in 1 oil down the open end to lubricate - there's that word.

if you do this whilst winding the window up and down you will be sure to work the oil through better.

After about a weeks worth of use or 10 'up and downs' my window was working at the correct speed and has'nt slowed yet.

Have fun let us know if it sorts it, you will need about 1.5hrs to complete the job, be careful with your panels.

Hope this helps

Vinny - Chimp 4.0

cockers

633 posts

297 months

Monday 11th February 2002
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I have a Chimp 400 and the drivers window takes and age to get to the top. Did you find any solution to this problem. If so, please let me know.

Also, my cig lighter has come loose as the bolt has come off inside the door. Can anyone tell me if there is a way to get back on without pulling the door apart.




Blimey...are you sure you haven't nicked my car?! Exactly the same two problems. NB - driver's side window winds up quicker in wet weather, presumably because the water is reducing friction somewhere!

ATG

22,272 posts

288 months

Monday 11th February 2002
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cheers vinny ... skin on hand has grown back after removing dashboard ... time to try it out on the doors. I assume there are lots of self tappers to skewer myself on?

macca

508 posts

295 months

Monday 11th February 2002
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If I remember right, putting lube on the window edges won't work because it's only the bottom few inches of the window that sits in the guides.

If you don't want to take off the panel (bitch of a job) then you can try spraying WD40 into the little gap between the window edge and the black piece of rubber. Look into this gap and you will see one of the guides.

If the angle of the guide has moved then the window may experience more friction as it rises, you can change the angle quite easily (2 bolts on the bottom of the door, one on the side) but make sure that you do not increase the gap between the window and the seal. You will probably have to take the panel off to move the guides unless you have 3 foot skeletor arms.

GreenV8S

30,931 posts

300 months

Monday 11th February 2002
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If you don't want to take off the panel (bitch of a job) then you can try spraying WD40 into the little gap between the window edge and the black piece of rubber. Look into this gap and you will see one of the guides.


NO NO NO please don't spray oil on it and especially not WD40 (which is a fine solvent and degreaser). Use silicone grease, this works a treat. Wind the window up and wipe it over the glass at the back, wind the window down and put it on the runner at the front. Winding the window up and dow a few times will work it into all the bits you can't see. If you oil it, it rots the rubber on the window slides which makes them swell and clamp the glass. No cure for this except new rubbers. But assuming you haven't oiled them, silicone grease will fix 90% of the problems and cleaning the electrics will fix another 5%. The final 5% comes down to misaligned window runners and in that case my advice is sell the car or find somebody with *far* more patience than I have to put them right!

Cheers,
Peter Humphries (and a green V8S)

squirrelz

Original Poster:

1,186 posts

287 months

Tuesday 12th February 2002
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Thanks, will try that this weekend (the greasing, not the selling )

.mark

11,104 posts

292 months

Tuesday 12th February 2002
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NO NO NO please don't spray oil on it and especially not WD40 (which is a fine solvent and degreaser). Use silicone grease, this works a treat. Wind the window up and wipe it over the glass at the back, wind the window down and put it on the runner at the front. Winding the window up and dow a few times will work it into all the bits you can't see. If you oil it, it rots the rubber on the window slides which makes them swell and clamp the glass. No cure for this except new rubbers. But assuming you haven't oiled them, silicone grease will fix 90% of the problems and cleaning the electrics will fix another 5%. The final 5% comes down to misaligned window runners and in that case my advice is sell the car or find somebody with *far* more patience than I have to put them right!

Cheers,
Peter Humphries (and a green V8S)



Yup, Peter's dead right. I asked this question on the TVRCC Maillist some time ago, Silicon Lube is the thing to use, just use plenty of it, my drivers window glides up and down and a quick squirt once every couple of months keeps it that way.
Perhaps not the perfect solution, but I have all the skin still on my hands and an extra 1.5 hours driving pleasure

V8BJC

318 posts

282 months

Tuesday 12th February 2002
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Hey Cockers...
Took a look at your car following your post. Maybe you are right!!!!!!
My car is dark blue (Aston Martin Mendip)with Mag/Blue interior. Will be checking my garage tonight to make sure it is still there.......

PLA

114 posts

290 months

Tuesday 12th February 2002
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Can someone tell me where you get silicone lube and does it have a trade name i.e WD40

>> Edited by PLA on Tuesday 12th February 16:37

.mark

11,104 posts

292 months

Tuesday 12th February 2002
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Go to your local motor factors and ask for some Silicon Lube. That's what I did costs about a fiver for quite a big tin.

richb

54,275 posts

300 months

Wednesday 13th February 2002
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I'll say it again, try Rolls MSL Silicone lubricant, comes in a spray (like WD40) get it from John Lewis haberdasherie dept. they sell it to spray onto curtain tracks to make them glide smoothly.

Rich...

duncan m

131 posts

286 months

Wednesday 13th February 2002
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...try Rolls MSL Silicone lubricant, comes in a spray (like WD40)...




Sounds like something you'd buy from a ... urrrrmmmm ... slightly less salubrious outlet with blacked out windows