James Herriot eat your heart out!
James Herriot eat your heart out!
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TheHobbit

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1,189 posts

280 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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I'm feeling all warm and happy (now I'm back inside out of the crappy weather anyway).

I just changed a blown headlight bulb James Herriot style, in through the grille. I know this is probably easy, and run of the mill to long term owners, but it's my first time (be gentle with me ) and so I'm feeling quite happy.

for now......

k4trv

1,819 posts

281 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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If you're that chuffed - then I'd suggest you should have changed the other headlamp bulb - guaranteed to extinguish itself in a few weeks just when your leaving a TVR meeting or similar and really don't want the hassle...........!! Besides, you'll forget the pleasure and details when it does need replacing !!!

Don't say you haven't been "advised....."

Yours, Mellow of Melksham...;-))

Trev McM

P.S. and my "new" alarm has packed in, another booring run to Exeter needed - getting a little cheesed..............;-((

tamago

532 posts

291 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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Does anyone know what bulb i need please. My dipped bulb has gone but the side lights are fine.

Was planning to access it through the wheelarch as I would not know what I am looking for if I go through the grill!

k4trv

1,819 posts

281 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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12v 55/60W H4 headlamp bulb - comes in many flavours - Xenon are recommended. (late models have flap in wheel arch, only early models 93-97 have access thro grill)

Trev McM

the dodger

2,376 posts

292 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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AFAIK Xenon is not a replacement. They are high intensity gas discharge bulbs requiring very high voltage.

I think Philips do a 12v 'substitute' with a blue tint haze - but I wouldn't recommend them.

TheHobbit

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1,189 posts

280 months

Sunday 4th April 2004
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Next time I 'go in' it will be to replace both bulbs with some nice new ones. It blew on the way home this afternoon, and so I just bought the £2.99 "Ring" branded ones from the local garage. I bought a spare, but I don't think I'll be doing it in the dark on a hard shoulder if the other one goes.... mine doesn't have the wheel arch "flap" and getting the grille back in seems the hardest part (is there an easy way to do this???).

I don't think you get Xenon bulbs.... my Omega has Xenon lamps, and there are no "bulbs" exactly. You can get the blue tinge bulbs, but I'm not convinced by them.

So, on that note.... what replacement bulbs are people using? I want to stay with 55/60w, but if I understand correctly, you can get 55/60w bulbs that are more efficient and chuck out more light?? Philips??

Recommendations please

k4trv: sorry to hear your "new" alarm is playing up.... what seems to be the trouble (just interested, as I had a new one fitted recently).

K4TRV

1,819 posts

281 months

Monday 5th April 2004
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the dodger said:
AFAIK Xenon is not a replacement. They are high intensity gas discharge bulbs requiring very high voltage.

I think Philips do a 12v 'substitute' with a blue tint haze - but I wouldn't recommend them.


Xenon is a replacement in a H4 (472) package, just costs more. They use a filling of Xenon and run at 2300K, which is hotter than Halogen, but not anywhere near 6000+K of HID. Yes, HID are specialist installations and also use Xenon, but cost in excess of £600 for 2 X H4 fittments.

Trev McM

TheHobbit

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1,189 posts

280 months

Monday 5th April 2004
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Just ordered the Osram +50% 55/60w H4 bulbs from Powerbulbs..... more James Herriot style antics when they arrive...

K4TRV

1,819 posts

281 months

Monday 5th April 2004
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TheHobbit said:
Next time I 'go in' it will be to replace both bulbs with some nice new ones. It blew on the way home this afternoon, and so I just bought the £2.99 "Ring" branded ones from the local garage. I bought a spare, but I don't think I'll be doing it in the dark on a hard shoulder if the other one goes.... mine doesn't have the wheel arch "flap" and getting the grille back in seems the hardest part (is there an easy way to do this???).

"NO !!"

I don't think you get Xenon bulbs.... my Omega has Xenon lamps, and there are no "bulbs" exactly. You can get the blue tinge bulbs, but I'm not convinced by them.

"I'll dig out a report for you - see earlier posting, you get the H4 bulb with Xenon gas, but its NOT a HID and nowhere near the brightness........but brighter than Halogen"

So, on that note.... what replacement bulbs are people using? I want to stay with 55/60w, but if I understand correctly, you can get 55/60w bulbs that are more efficient and chuck out more light?? Philips??

"You may consider the MOD Kit which up-grades the wiring to the headlamps?"

Recommendations please

k4trv: sorry to hear your "new" alarm is playing up.... what seems to be the trouble (just interested, as I had a new one fitted recently).

"The solenoids no longer "lock" the door when the alarm is set. They unlock OK tho'??"

Trev McM


TheHobbit

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1,189 posts

280 months

Monday 5th April 2004
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as per earlier posting, I've ordered the Osram Silver Star bulbs.... they should be fine for me, and won't need the upgraded wiring, as they're 55/60w..... I'd be interested in reading that report you talk of.... I didn't realise you could get xenon filled normal bulbs! My omega has xenon HID and they are fantastic!

the dodger

2,376 posts

292 months

Monday 5th April 2004
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Neither did I! - Thanks for the update & info Trev. Any idea of supplier of H4 Xenon - cost?

jsr

1,155 posts

279 months

Monday 5th April 2004
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I've just put in Halford's 50% brighter bulbs - they're much better than standard bulbs, illuminating a lot more of the road.

BTW, i've become a bit of an expert at getting the grille on and off. I reckon i could take of grill, change bulb and replace in no more than 10 minutes.

I just use a flat blade screwdriver to lever the grill out leaving the rubber in place. Replacement is just a case of putting one end in first and getting the top edge in the rubber groove and then using the screqdriver the 'scoop' the rubber flap from behind the grill to the front.

Kind of like using a tyre lever when changing a tyre on a bike.

K4TRV

1,819 posts

281 months

Monday 5th April 2004
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the dodger said:
Neither did I! - Thanks for the update & info Trev. Any idea of supplier of H4 Xenon - cost?


Sadly, I believe Halfrauds @ around £15-ish for two??

Try web pages/Google.

Trev McM

the dodger

2,376 posts

292 months

Monday 5th April 2004
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jsr said:
I've just put in Halford's 50% brighter bulbs - they're much better than standard bulbs, illuminating a lot more of the road.

BTW, i've become a bit of an expert at getting the grille on and off. I reckon i could take of grill, change bulb and replace in no more than 10 minutes.

I just use a flat blade screwdriver to lever the grill out leaving the rubber in place. Replacement is just a case of putting one end in first and getting the top edge in the rubber groove and then using the screqdriver the 'scoop' the rubber flap from behind the grill to the front.

Kind of like using a tyre lever when changing a tyre on a bike.

jsr - my grille falls out when I take the screws out - along with the rubber seal. No problem for me but I believe I'm in a minority. Do you have a 'hatch' to get to the bulbs then?

K4TRV

1,819 posts

281 months

Wednesday 7th April 2004
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Dear Mr Hobbit, a bit tardy on responding re-Xenon Bulbs - been rather busy !!

The report I read was in a BMW Club Journal (Motorcycles) and paraphrased from Auto Express (with permission) on the tests done on H1, H4, H7 bulbs.

The Philips Vision Plus H4, as used in most Chims, was considered best (55/60w) by at least 20%

Whilst illegal on post Oct 85 registered cars, upping the wattage to anything over 85w produced very snmall increase over the Philips - law of dimishing returns. Especially when going to 90/130w without upgrading the wiring significantly.

Trev McM

TheHobbit

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Wednesday 7th April 2004
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K4TRV said:
Dear Mr Hobbit, a bit tardy on responding re-Xenon Bulbs - been rather busy !!

The report I read was in a BMW Club Journal (Motorcycles) and paraphrased from Auto Express (with permission) on the tests done on H1, H4, H7 bulbs.

The Philips Vision Plus H4, as used in most Chims, was considered best (55/60w) by at least 20%

Whilst illegal on post Oct 85 registered cars, upping the wattage to anything over 85w produced very snmall increase over the Philips - law of dimishing returns. Especially when going to 90/130w without upgrading the wiring significantly.

Trev McM


Mmmm... thats interesting, thanks Trev. The reviews on Powerbulbs website suggested the osram "50% better" bulbs were marginally better than the philips ones, and so I bought them instead..... I'd be interested to compare them with some philips ones at some point to see if there is any noticable difference (not that I think you'd necessarily spot it with the naked eye to be honest!)

k4trv

1,819 posts

281 months

Wednesday 7th April 2004
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Karl,

Think you summed it up:

"not that I think you'd necessarily spot it with the naked eye to be honest!"

Trev

chimyellow

363 posts

288 months

Wednesday 7th April 2004
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TheHobbit said:
mine doesn't have the wheel arch "flap" and getting the grille back in seems the hardest part (is there an easy way to do this???).



Best thing that I have found is a wooden peg (split into the two parts) and some hot soapy water. The wood is less likely to scratch the grill.
The hot soapy water lubricates the rubber (Oo Er Missus) and makes it a little more plyable.



>> Edited by chimyellow on Wednesday 7th April 21:19

TheHobbit

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1,189 posts

280 months

Wednesday 7th April 2004
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oooh.... thats a good idea... will try that when I get around to sticking the new osrams in (MrsHobbit picked them up from the postoffice, because the postman read the "fragile" stickers, and *didn't* just stuff it all through the letterbox )