Leaking behind both doors - help!
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I have finally sussed where my leak is.
Behind both doors there is a small area of the roof velcro'd down. The bit that is attached to the body is riveted through with 3 small rivets inside and out, but does not appear to be otherwise attached (glue, sealant, etc.
Could someone tell me how this is supposed to be attached because today in the rain it was pretty much running in, explaining quite a lot...
Many thanks,
Rich
Behind both doors there is a small area of the roof velcro'd down. The bit that is attached to the body is riveted through with 3 small rivets inside and out, but does not appear to be otherwise attached (glue, sealant, etc.
Could someone tell me how this is supposed to be attached because today in the rain it was pretty much running in, explaining quite a lot...
Many thanks,
Rich
When I looked the other day in the pouring rain, this bit of velcro was only attached to the body with 3 rivets - no glue or sealant, etc.
It was my impression (though difficult to say) that it was seeping under the velcro. The uppermost part of the velcro was covered by the hood, but the rivets were on show.
I get the feeling I need to remove the velcro and re-attach it using silicone sealant underneath it, as well waterproofing the valcro itself.
Anybody got any other ideas?
Rich
It was my impression (though difficult to say) that it was seeping under the velcro. The uppermost part of the velcro was covered by the hood, but the rivets were on show.
I get the feeling I need to remove the velcro and re-attach it using silicone sealant underneath it, as well waterproofing the valcro itself.
Anybody got any other ideas?
Rich
Mine was diagnosed as hoop and door seals - easy job, seals push
One point definitely worth checking though - on new seals there are two long strips hanging down from hoop seals, between door and bodywork. Think these supposed to make sure water coming in the panel gap at the door opening is forced into the "gutter" of the door. Was missing on old ones ad was pissing in.
One point definitely worth checking though - on new seals there are two long strips hanging down from hoop seals, between door and bodywork. Think these supposed to make sure water coming in the panel gap at the door opening is forced into the "gutter" of the door. Was missing on old ones ad was pissing in.
Rossco2010 said:
Mine was diagnosed as hoop and door seals - easy job, seals push
One point definitely worth checking though - on new seals there are two long strips hanging down from hoop seals, between door and bodywork. Think these supposed to make sure water coming in the panel gap at the door opening is forced into the "gutter" of the door. Was missing on old ones ad was pissing in.
May I ask where you got these from, please?One point definitely worth checking though - on new seals there are two long strips hanging down from hoop seals, between door and bodywork. Think these supposed to make sure water coming in the panel gap at the door opening is forced into the "gutter" of the door. Was missing on old ones ad was pissing in.
R
A common reason for it leaking in this area is an untreated roof.
For some reason if the roof hasnt been waterproffed for a while then the area just above the elephant ears seems to leak and drip down on the seat betls and make the floor very wet as well.
A quck treatment fixes it
I used Auto Glym Cabriolet treatment
For some reason if the roof hasnt been waterproffed for a while then the area just above the elephant ears seems to leak and drip down on the seat betls and make the floor very wet as well.
A quck treatment fixes it
I used Auto Glym Cabriolet treatment
ralphy12345 said:
Rossco2010 said:
Mine was diagnosed as hoop and door seals - easy job, seals push
One point definitely worth checking though - on new seals there are two long strips hanging down from hoop seals, between door and bodywork. Think these supposed to make sure water coming in the panel gap at the door opening is forced into the "gutter" of the door. Was missing on old ones ad was pissing in.
May I ask where you got these from, please?One point definitely worth checking though - on new seals there are two long strips hanging down from hoop seals, between door and bodywork. Think these supposed to make sure water coming in the panel gap at the door opening is forced into the "gutter" of the door. Was missing on old ones ad was pissing in.
R
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Edited by Rossco2010 on Saturday 27th November 17:18
I would agree with W0051E, the first step is to re-proof the roof. Buy a large can of Fabsil from your local camping shop and paint on generously (I always proof the targa as well as the folding bit, not sure if this is necessary or not).
The problem seems to be that when water runs off the roof it is channelled behind the doors, so this bit of canvas gets more water across it than any other part of the roof.
For reattaching the velcro and/or the flappy bit of canvas that goes inside, I would recommend stitching (which is how the original was done), you will need an awl, blunt leather-sewing needles (saddlers needles) and stout linen thread. A bit fiddly but quite easy to do.
The problem seems to be that when water runs off the roof it is channelled behind the doors, so this bit of canvas gets more water across it than any other part of the roof.
For reattaching the velcro and/or the flappy bit of canvas that goes inside, I would recommend stitching (which is how the original was done), you will need an awl, blunt leather-sewing needles (saddlers needles) and stout linen thread. A bit fiddly but quite easy to do.
debaron said:
Renovo itself is just a colour restorer AFAIK. You would still need to bung ideally 2 coats of Fabsil etc on to get decent waterproofing.
Not so, Renovo sell a range of products that are designed to work together to completely renovate your hood.1) Cleaner for preparation
2) Colour restorer
3) Waterproofer
Used correctly in that order and the three products transform a faded & leaking hood.
I have used the full kit and it works fantastically well, the hood looks almost new with a nice dark black colour, water beads up and just rolls off.
You could of cause just use the waterproofer to solve a leak but the full kit gives such good results for not much more money I would be tempted to do all three steps.
From personal experience the Renovo proofer is a waste of time, it doesn't last very long at all. You only have to clean & re-colour very occasionally with Renovo, but Fabsil is fine at proofing if you just give a good rinse with clean water beforehand.
You should use waxed thread IIRC, even though the velcro overlaps water can saturate upwards behind the hood. Frosts used to sell an awl & thread kit - also great for velcroing carpets BTW (if you want to do lightweight hardcore jaunts every now & again..)
You should use waxed thread IIRC, even though the velcro overlaps water can saturate upwards behind the hood. Frosts used to sell an awl & thread kit - also great for velcroing carpets BTW (if you want to do lightweight hardcore jaunts every now & again..)
These elephant ears, would they be like a rounded L shape by chance?
My roof leaks, which i need to sort out and I found one on the above under the drivers seat the other day. Also my velcro has come completely away from the body which Im sure is one of the reasons for the leak.
So what I think i need to do, if someone could confirm this it would be really helpful
1. Re glue velcro back to the body
2. find where the elephant ears are supposed to go (a picture would be great) and re attach/glue?
3. Reseal the roof with Fabriseal
Any help would be greatly appreciated
My roof leaks, which i need to sort out and I found one on the above under the drivers seat the other day. Also my velcro has come completely away from the body which Im sure is one of the reasons for the leak.
So what I think i need to do, if someone could confirm this it would be really helpful
1. Re glue velcro back to the body
2. find where the elephant ears are supposed to go (a picture would be great) and re attach/glue?
3. Reseal the roof with Fabriseal
Any help would be greatly appreciated
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