Help - removal of transmission tunnel cover
Help - removal of transmission tunnel cover
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Nosh

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982 posts

198 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Can anyone help?

I am checking the earthing points on the transmission tunnel and believe I have to remove the cover.

The bible refers to bolts behind the seats that need to be removed....

I cannot see any such bolts - can anyone help?

Thanks in advance
Nosh

Konrod

912 posts

259 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Hi Nosh

There is one screw under the coin tray (the pad in the bottom of it lifts off for access) and then there are two screws at the front either side. Slide back slightly then lift. Complete removal may need handbrake adjustment to almost vertical, but if all you want to check are the earths then it can usually be maneuvered out of the way enough for access without needing that.

Cheers

J

Edited by Konrod on Monday 3rd January 11:41

Nosh

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982 posts

198 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Konrod said:
Hi Nosh

There is one screw under the coin tray (the pad in the bottom of it lifts off for access) and then there are two screws at the front either side. Slide back slightly then lift. Complete removal may need handbrake adjustment to almost vertical, but if all you want to check are the earths then it can usually be maneuvered out of the way enough for access without needing that.

Cheers

J

Edited by Konrod on Monday 3rd January 11:41
J

Cheers - but a silly question - the two screws are at the front of what?

Thanks again - really appreciated

N

S7Paul

2,103 posts

265 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Nosh said:
Konrod said:
Hi Nosh

There is one screw under the coin tray (the pad in the bottom of it lifts off for access) and then there are two screws at the front either side. Slide back slightly then lift. Complete removal may need handbrake adjustment to almost vertical, but if all you want to check are the earths then it can usually be maneuvered out of the way enough for access without needing that.

Cheers

J

Edited by Konrod on Monday 3rd January 11:41
J

Cheers - but a silly question - the two screws are at the front of what?

Thanks again - really appreciated

N
The front of the main part of the tunnel cover. There's one screw each side, near where your knee is when sat in the car.

Nosh

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982 posts

198 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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ok - got it out and no screws - weird...

There were 2 screws holing it in at the back, but now I have the consul out (mrs doing some cleaning and some stiching on a small tear) I still cannot see the earthing points!!!!

Anyone got piccys?

Do I need to remove carpet and the such like

Thanks in advance
Nosh

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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They gave you the info for later cars, yours has screws under the coin tray and just unhooks at the front. Unless you totally slacken off the handbrake it is impossible to get out, except where the mod of shortening the tongues has been made (another one of mine hehe ).

Look up the holes that held the 'tongues' and you'll see (only see!) the bolts. To get at them you need to prise the carpet out under the lower dash and peel back - many just slit the carpet to gain access where it is covered by the tunnel cover IIRC.

Nosh

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Monday 3rd January 2011
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spend said:
They gave you the info for later cars, yours has screws under the coin tray and just unhooks at the front. Unless you totally slacken off the handbrake it is impossible to get out, except where the mod of shortening the tongues has been made (another one of mine hehe ).

Look up the holes that held the 'tongues' and you'll see (only see!) the bolts. To get at them you need to prise the carpet out under the lower dash and peel back - many just slit the carpet to gain access where it is covered by the tunnel cover IIRC.
Cheers Spend - It is an early Chim (93) - looks like your 'mod' was done. Centre came out sweet. wink

However, there are the two holes that the tongues came out of - the carpet holds down the fiberglass bit with the two tunnels as part of it...

Cutting an access hole in the carpet wont work, as it looks like I have to peel back all the carpet to get the fiberglass bit out, so I can access the bolts....

Heres a piccy I snapped with the blackberry, so I know I am on the right track...



Am I doing something wrong here?

Reconnect the battery and still have the glowing red light, but at least the car is showing over 14 volts when the car is running....so there is charge going into it....

These are the last two earths I need to get to and I am getting immensley frustrated!!!

Nosh

Nosh

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982 posts

198 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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and this piccy shows what it looks like at the moment and the dilemma I am in!!


spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Its very hard work to loosen the carpet 'under the cubby', spatula / tyre levers / screw drivers + much patience and swearing... (been there done it - twice!). Once loosened its nearly as hard to slip out whilst levering up the lower dash. Reassembly is possible more effort yikes

The dash light is likely to be unconnected to the earth. The low forward voltage commonly activates the LED on those cars. Battery at 14.4V and regulated field coils at 12V is enough to make the LED glow. You basically need a smaller resistor in parallel with the LED - you'll see the std one behind the dash, just replace it with @1/2 the rating as a start.

It's still well worth 'sorting' the main earth, the really awkward access is why I took the time to duplex mine to the chassis and to take a ground directly up to the dash from them.

Nosh

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198 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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spend said:
Its very hard work to loosen the carpet 'under the cubby', spatula / tyre levers / screw drivers + much patience and swearing... (been there done it - twice!). Once loosened its nearly as hard to slip out whilst levering up the lower dash. Reassembly is possible more effort yikes

The dash light is likely to be unconnected to the earth. The low forward voltage commonly activates the LED on those cars. Battery at 14.4V and regulated field coils at 12V is enough to make the LED glow. You basically need a smaller resistor in parallel with the LED - you'll see the std one behind the dash, just replace it with @1/2 the rating as a start.

It's still well worth 'sorting' the main earth, the really awkward access is why I took the time to duplex mine to the chassis and to take a ground directly up to the dash from them.
Well, it transpires that there are small 'hatches / holes' that enable you to access the bolts for the earths without removing the all of the carpet - a sharp stanley knife done the trick and both earths have been checked.

The only one remaining now, is the one under the radiator....

The glowing light remains, but I have sorted the accumate connections (battery now being drip fed) and removed the interior light relay (and the interior lights have never worked!!) Also removed the problem with the main lights, which would alter the reading on the temp gauge, by reinstalling a wire that had come disconnected from the base of the relays...

Good job smile

Thanks.
Nosh

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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The 'glowing' ignition light syndrome is accentuated by having a battery in tip-top condition BTW.

Mine still always flickers at night with high rpm, quick way to test is flick on the heater fans - that draws enough on the dash circuit to just bring the forward voltage under the LED threshold. The range required to make the led work only when you want is pretty tricky, bulbs work fine and a relay is the occasionally mentioned definitive fix hehe I still like it flickering & encouraging me to rev the bugger rofl

nawarne

3,181 posts

291 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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-Reconnect the battery and still have the glowing red light, but at least the car is showing over 14 volts when the car is running....so there is charge going into it....-

Just a thought....might be worth checking the 100 amp fuse.
The flickering red light was a symptom when my Chim fuse gave up. A word of warning - on casual inspection the fuse 'strip' can look fine until disturbed...whereupon the hairline crack is revealed and the fuse falls apart.
The fuse is in a black plastic holder on the chassis rail (lower on IIRC) on drivers side.

The other earth point for instruments/lights/wipers etc. is the one at the front of the car. Can be a bit exposed and cause some v.odd behaviours with associated circuits if not making good contact.

Nick.

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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I'd be surprised if the OP had an Alternator fuse, given the build age from the transmission tunnel details wink

Nosh

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982 posts

198 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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spend said:
I'd be surprised if the OP had an Alternator fuse, given the build age from the transmission tunnel details wink
You ain't wrong there..its an oldie...... wink

Got a signature on it as well....



The last (unchecked) earthing point is at the front....

....can i get to this without removing the rad?

Nosh

Edited by Nosh on Tuesday 4th January 14:46

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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Yes, but you can't really see what you're doing ~ not that its a deal better with the rad out of the way hehe

Mirrors & fingertip feeling should suffice, just hope you've mastered grill removal before your tolerance is tested rofl