Modified Engines what plug ratings u running ?
Modified Engines what plug ratings u running ?
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hiltonig

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3,153 posts

239 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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Chaps just intersted to see whos running what, I think I am running cooler plugs that the norm just wondering what other plug ratings are being used. Anyone recko a good plug spanner as it looks like a challange for changing them.

dbv8

8,676 posts

251 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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I changed from NGK B7ECs to B8ECS when using the nitrous but ended up leaving the plugs in and they ran fine. I will be looking to using 9's when on large amounts of gas at the strip but will refit the 8's for general use.

Maybe not applicable but just to show a cooler plug than specified can run fine in an engine with only mild mods NA.

What plugs are you running?

Edited by dbv8 on Tuesday 5th April 07:04

hiltonig

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3,153 posts

239 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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I need to check but think they are 9 as V8 dev fitted. I was going to renew the plugs are I have ran the car but the wideband lamdas are knackered due to the position on the ACT manifolds. I have now relocated them in a downward position as suggested by NTK. The result of this is the car has been running really rich so I was going to check to see if any of the plugs are fouled.

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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The spanner is not so important, most 3/8" sockets will be OK (thinner wall the better) and some wobble extensions + a flex handle wrench (cheap 6" bendy handle affair is fine) I find.

The most important thing is care and patience of ftool using the tools IMHO, cleaning & slipping the threads so that you can spin plugs in nearly all the way by hand. Any slight angular difference and they'll cross thread - don't be too eager to wind them in! The sockets / spanner outer dias can also gall against the head casting easily so just frequently wiggle the tool rather than force anything. Final torquing is only really a nip you should not need 'massive' tools for plugs.

ETA: submit a question to NGK, I asked them some things recently, then their technical folks rang back next day and were happy to discuss at length what they could offer from the product range.

Edited by spend on Tuesday 5th April 08:02

450Nick

4,027 posts

243 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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Hi Nigel. I run B8ECS on mine, no probs. Plugs are quick and easy to change, especially with the ACT manifolds as they have better clearance. The only place you may struggle is on cylinder number 7. This can take a bit of jiggling, but all can be done with the plug socket that comes in a halfords professional 1/2" socket set.

Pupp

13,017 posts

303 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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BR8ECS guys, don't forget the all important 'R' if you're on aftermarket ECUs wink

neal1980

2,585 posts

270 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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Pupp said:
BR8ECS guys, don't forget the all important 'R' if you're on aftermarket ECUs wink
Spot on advice.... I found out after my 60 ecu resets later biglaugh

450Nick

4,027 posts

243 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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Sorry you are totally right, BR8ECS - I had massive issues running non resisted plugs!

SILICONE KID

14,997 posts

262 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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Why do you need R rated plugs with after market ECU`s? im useing B7ECs plugs with megasquirt...and why 8`s

Pupp

13,017 posts

303 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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SILICONE KID said:
Why do you need R rated plugs with after market ECU`s? im useing B7ECs plugs with megasquirt...and why 8`s
Helps avoid problems with electromagnetic interference that can cause ECU resets or corrupt data, especially if non-resistive leads and/or shrouds are used.

8s because they are slightly harder (colder) plugs better able to cope with the harsher spark demands in a tuned engine with higher combustion pressures etc, and because NGK don't make a resistive version of the B7ECS.

Your engine would have made 340hp with them wink

BliarOut

72,863 posts

270 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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I've got a spanner that does the job if you're stuck biggrin

hiltonig

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3,153 posts

239 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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ok for those of you running P38 coil packs what plugs u running ??? need to know as I reckon I am running B9 colder plugs non resistive which maybe fouling in normal running.

v8 racing

2,064 posts

282 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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hiltonig said:
ok for those of you running P38 coil packs what plugs u running ??? need to know as I reckon I am running B9 colder plugs non resistive which maybe fouling in normal running.
Nigel your plugs are definetly resitive, they are an iridium 9 rating, they really shouldnt foul under normal running, because of your engine i went for 9's over 8's purely because your cylinder temps are going to be very high, by all means fit a hotter plug but if it melts and destroys a piston be it on your head!!, seriously get it running right first, by all means bring the car down to me and i will map the car on the road for you.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

270 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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Christ, I struggle to cycle flat out on the roads round your way hehe

hiltonig

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3,153 posts

239 months

Thursday 7th April 2011
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v8 racing said:
Nigel your plugs are definetly resitive, they are an iridium 9 rating, they really shouldnt foul under normal running, because of your engine i went for 9's over 8's purely because your cylinder temps are going to be very high, by all means fit a hotter plug but if it melts and destroys a piston be it on your head!!, seriously get it running right first, by all means bring the car down to me and i will map the car on the road for you.
Yes this sounds like a plan , i have the motec software plugged it in last nite and the lambdas look fine with no errors, its only got to be fueling that need adjusting

BliarOut

72,863 posts

270 months

Thursday 7th April 2011
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Ahem, 1.4 on the overrun...

It's got bloody potential though hehe