Heater refurb

Heater refurb

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Quietlybonkers

21,124 posts

146 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Thanks. Another thing you might have spotted.....

I have just spent 20 minutes in the footwell, trying to spot the second 100 amp fuse that I am told is located in there on post 1995 cars. Do you, or anyone else, know exactly where the ruddy thing is located? Attached to what? Photo if possible. I cannot find it mentioned at all in the Steve Heath bible, and cannot spot it, but I have lost power to all the things that are not via the ignition, so elec windows, lights, panel lights, etc, which suggests a main fuse has blown. Having had the alternator to battery one blow about three months ago I know it's not that one, but know the old strip fuses are a bit unreliable. I have midi fuses on order, just need to find where to put them.

Pink_Floyd

900 posts

223 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Quietlybonkers said:
I have just spent 20 minutes in the footwell, trying to spot the second 100 amp fuse that I am told is located in there on post 1995 cars. Do you, or anyone else, know exactly where the ruddy thing is located?
On my chim theer are 2 cables going to the battery positive, a big red one that goes to the starter and a brown one. about 6 inches along the brown one is the big fuse. The other side of the fuse goes to the fuse/relay box. If this fuse whas blown then in my car I would have no power at all, I would assume that yours would be the same.

Quietlybonkers

21,124 posts

146 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Pink_Floyd said:
On my chim theer are 2 cables going to the battery positive, a big red one that goes to the starter and a brown one. about 6 inches along the brown one is the big fuse. The other side of the fuse goes to the fuse/relay box. If this fuse whas blown then in my car I would have no power at all, I would assume that yours would be the same.
Thanks. That does puzzle me then. I have power, the car runs, the heater controls and fan work, the eclectic mirrors work, the inkidators and wipers work, ie everything that works via the ignition key. I have just lost the use of the minor things that work when the ignition is off, ie all the lights except the inkidators, the panel lights, the eclectic windows, the speedo and odometer.

Quietlybonkers

21,124 posts

146 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Found the fuse , all fine. It's 80 amps, by the way.
So my next thought is a common earth to the lights and elec windies. Any ideas where it might be?

Hedgehopper

1,537 posts

246 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Often when you have a faulty earth it causes interactions between various components, i.e. side lights flash with indicators etc. As your problem is only with non ignition items I would check the multi-plugs behind the dash as each one of these supplies power to several items.

Quietlybonkers

21,124 posts

146 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Hedgehopper said:
Often when you have a faulty earth it causes interactions between various components, i.e. side lights flash with indicators etc. As your problem is only with non ignition items I would check the multi-plugs behind the dash as each one of these supplies power to several items.
Behind the dash rather than in the foooot well?

Hedgehopper

1,537 posts

246 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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I only know about the Griff dash but I doubt that the Chim is much different. Behind the dash are several multi-plugs which connect all of the switches, gauges etc. to the main loom. As all of the faulty items you mentioned are switched from this area I thought it was worth a look.

Quietlybonkers

21,124 posts

146 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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Hedgehopper said:
I only know about the Griff dash but I doubt that the Chim is much different. Behind the dash are several multi-plugs which connect all of the switches, gauges etc. to the main loom. As all of the faulty items you mentioned are switched from this area I thought it was worth a look.
Thanks - I will pop to Halfrauds and get a swivelling socket spanner and have a look tomorrow (forecast sunshine). It's pissing down at the moment,

Hoofa

3,151 posts

210 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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Ok pipes out I can see two screws holding it in at the front, are there anymore ?..and where are they ???

Hoofa

3,151 posts

210 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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Two front screws out and hoses off and it's still refusing to come out !

Quietlybonkers

21,124 posts

146 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Thanks to several hours of enthusiastic help from young Alex (help = he did the work, I just bought the bits and helped where I could), we now have a car that will be fully operational soon.

The problem was mice, in the area around the gear lever and behind the radio.

They had chewed:
The speedo wire where it passes through the transmission tunnel to go down to the gearbox
The rubber and leather gaiters to the handbrake and gear leather
Several wires on top of the tranny tunnel, including eclectic windows and I think tail lights - 4 in total
Behind the radio, the wires to the immobiliser LED
The lights and rear fog light ribbon cables, which were in several pieces,
A green and red wire.....no idea what it does.

So I need to source:
The gaiters - full set, magnolia for the faux leather ones
Two 2 foot ribbon cables
Someone with a ramp to solder the speedo cables back together - below the tranny tunnel, so not a driveway job

Should be mobile again by the weekend

Hoofa

3,151 posts

210 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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I have the ramp so welcome to use it, I have heater matrix out so a happy bunny now smile

Quietlybonkers

21,124 posts

146 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Hoofa said:
I have the ramp so welcome to use it, I have heater matrix out so a happy bunny now smile
Well done Sir! Having been head first in the footwell, I am in awe that you managed that. I will just check first if my local garage are willing to do it, as I have a very full week, but if not I will get in touch, thanks. Have soldering iron, will travel! And I believe there might be a pub in your area?

slideways

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4,101 posts

223 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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Getting it back in might require a little persuasion with a small jemmy bar

Quietlybonkers

21,124 posts

146 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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slideways said:
Getting it back in might require a little persuasion with a small jemmy bar
.....and a lot of bad language and "I wish I hadn't started this..."mad

Quietlybonkers

21,124 posts

146 months

Thursday 6th December 2012
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Quietlybonkers said:
slideways said:
Getting it back in might require a little persuasion with a small jemmy bar
.....and a lot of bad language and "I wish I hadn't started this..."mad
Interior all reassembled now. Rubber gaiters were a pain to source.
So now I can start again on cleaning out the heater.........

e635815

379 posts

190 months

Sunday 22nd November 2020
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Time to reopen this old discussion.
The heater system has now been taken out of the car and the matrix is out.
I'd like to give a good clean to everything and renew the foam which falls into pieces.
But I can't seem to be able to dismantle the flap. The axis is rusted and the plastic bits just won't move.
How do you guys managed to remove the flap from the box?
In case anything gets broken in the process, any possibility to replace it by a standard component?
Thanks and regards
Philippe