New Owner - XJS 4.0 Facelift
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Hi All
I'm a new owner of a XJS 4.0 Facelift, August 1991 model. I've bought a slightly damaged one to do up, the damage is nothing major and the car is in very good condition otherwise. It's done 88k, which appears genuine according to old Mot's etc, only 4 owners in 20 years, very minor rust by the rear arches, underneath is solid and the engine ticks over very nicely. I think the colour is Diamond Blue but I'm still checking this. Interior is excellent too, slight cracking on the drivers seat leather but no holes or severe wear. Got it at a very good price and I'm ok with the spanners so I'm going to repair it myself.
The problem is I'm struggling to find parts for the facelift model. Are the parts harder to come by for this model?
I'm looking for a bonnet, front n/s wing and a pair of headlights, also one piece of front bumper chrome.
Any advice on where to source parts? I've done the usual eBay browsing but not much look there.
I'm a new owner of a XJS 4.0 Facelift, August 1991 model. I've bought a slightly damaged one to do up, the damage is nothing major and the car is in very good condition otherwise. It's done 88k, which appears genuine according to old Mot's etc, only 4 owners in 20 years, very minor rust by the rear arches, underneath is solid and the engine ticks over very nicely. I think the colour is Diamond Blue but I'm still checking this. Interior is excellent too, slight cracking on the drivers seat leather but no holes or severe wear. Got it at a very good price and I'm ok with the spanners so I'm going to repair it myself.
The problem is I'm struggling to find parts for the facelift model. Are the parts harder to come by for this model?
I'm looking for a bonnet, front n/s wing and a pair of headlights, also one piece of front bumper chrome.
Any advice on where to source parts? I've done the usual eBay browsing but not much look there.
Geoff DIxon said:
Thanks for the link - just tried them and received a very prompt email reply, but the prices are not to my liking! - the parts needed came to nearly £1500!Will keep searching for used bits.
I'm breaking a 91 face lift, what are you after?
Scratch that, I just re-read your post....... I have all of those parts
The reason they are hard to come by is because they were an in-betweeny year, not quite a full facelift and still very similar to the old shape, the full facelift was a year later
Scratch that, I just re-read your post....... I have all of those parts
The reason they are hard to come by is because they were an in-betweeny year, not quite a full facelift and still very similar to the old shape, the full facelift was a year later
Edited by XKRacer on Tuesday 24th May 15:03
I'm in the process of restoring a 4.0 facelift in
Diamond Blue coincidentally. Parts are available but
scarcer than the pre- facelift cars, and sometimes pricier.
I'm removing the larger " Celebration " bumpers on ours
to retrofit the smaller ones... This necessitates using
the older wings as the front valance is non-existent behind
the large plastic bumpers on a facelift car.
( My nearside facelift wing wasn't that great anyway, though )
CARELLO lights seem inordinately expensive imo, front and rear.
Be observant for water ingress around the windscreen area...
I've posted on here before re' this. Our car looked good at
initial first glance. Now, it has new floorpans amongst other
things. Forget what you've heard about " bullet proof rustproofing
due to galvanising " I'm afraid that's just " pub talk " ! they just aren't...seriously.
The interior trim is a let down... " full leather " means, seat
facings only, armrests front and rear, centre console and steering wheel.
The rest is leather look vinyl.
Again, not what you would expect of a Jaguar, imho.
( Ford's bean counters at work here probably )
Pre-facelift cars seem to be better trimmed. I may have a full
facelift trim for sale in the near future ( complete with
the electrically driven front Sportspack seats .)
I want our car to utilise what I feel is the best of both the
older and the facelift cars. I stress this just my own viewpoint.
This car needed full restoration anyway and so I'm building it
the way I would have wanted it.
If it had been mint I may have decided otherwise. But if
it had been mint, it wouldn't have been the price I paid for it.
If there is one car that you get what you pay for with, then the XJS
is it. I wanted a project and that's what I got !
.
I may sound very critical, but I don't mean to be... there are some
areas where I think the facelift cars' are more appealing :
more wood, better instruments, bigger glass area and the AJ6/16 have a
good reputation. Our car has the outboard disc braked rear axle, which
is a major plus point ( easier disc pad changes, no melted diff seals )
I don't consider myself an expert on the XJS,
but I've worked on my own cars since I was young , and
I'm learning fast. I've just bought the next one, this one has become
the training course/ learning curve car.
Can't help you with any other parts you need as I need them myself !
But, Good Luck on your project. I hope you've found a better one than me
and you enjoy owning a nice car, when you've finished.
Diamond Blue coincidentally. Parts are available but
scarcer than the pre- facelift cars, and sometimes pricier.
I'm removing the larger " Celebration " bumpers on ours
to retrofit the smaller ones... This necessitates using
the older wings as the front valance is non-existent behind
the large plastic bumpers on a facelift car.
( My nearside facelift wing wasn't that great anyway, though )
CARELLO lights seem inordinately expensive imo, front and rear.
Be observant for water ingress around the windscreen area...
I've posted on here before re' this. Our car looked good at
initial first glance. Now, it has new floorpans amongst other
things. Forget what you've heard about " bullet proof rustproofing
due to galvanising " I'm afraid that's just " pub talk " ! they just aren't...seriously.
The interior trim is a let down... " full leather " means, seat
facings only, armrests front and rear, centre console and steering wheel.
The rest is leather look vinyl.
Again, not what you would expect of a Jaguar, imho.
( Ford's bean counters at work here probably )
Pre-facelift cars seem to be better trimmed. I may have a full
facelift trim for sale in the near future ( complete with
the electrically driven front Sportspack seats .)
I want our car to utilise what I feel is the best of both the
older and the facelift cars. I stress this just my own viewpoint.
This car needed full restoration anyway and so I'm building it
the way I would have wanted it.
If it had been mint I may have decided otherwise. But if
it had been mint, it wouldn't have been the price I paid for it.
If there is one car that you get what you pay for with, then the XJS
is it. I wanted a project and that's what I got !
.
I may sound very critical, but I don't mean to be... there are some
areas where I think the facelift cars' are more appealing :
more wood, better instruments, bigger glass area and the AJ6/16 have a
good reputation. Our car has the outboard disc braked rear axle, which
is a major plus point ( easier disc pad changes, no melted diff seals )
I don't consider myself an expert on the XJS,
but I've worked on my own cars since I was young , and
I'm learning fast. I've just bought the next one, this one has become
the training course/ learning curve car.
Can't help you with any other parts you need as I need them myself !
But, Good Luck on your project. I hope you've found a better one than me
and you enjoy owning a nice car, when you've finished.
Edited by mikele pirelli on Wednesday 25th May 20:43
Edited by mikele pirelli on Thursday 26th May 12:27
Thanks for all replies. I've managed to purchase another facelift, a 1992 4.0 for a good price, (a lot cheaper than sourcing all the parts seperately) this is going to be the donor car for my Diamond Blue one. Bit of a project for me really, breaking the green one and using the required parts for the blue one. The blue one is very sound rust wise, no windscreen leaks that I can see and the floor pans/underside seem all good. I've managed to rent a good dry workshop unit too (partly for business use and also great for the cars as can fit up to three in there)so plenty of space to work on the Jags!
When were the brakes updated to the out board ones? Was this on all facelifts?
When were the brakes updated to the out board ones? Was this on all facelifts?
XJS07 said:
Thanks for all replies. I've managed to purchase another facelift, a 1992 4.0 for a good price, (a lot cheaper than sourcing all the parts seperately) this is going to be the donor car for my Diamond Blue one. Bit of a project for me really, breaking the green one and using the required parts for the blue one. The blue one is very sound rust wise, no windscreen leaks that I can see and the floor pans/underside seem all good. I've managed to rent a good dry workshop unit too (partly for business use and also great for the cars as can fit up to three in there)so plenty of space to work on the Jags!
When were the brakes updated to the out board ones? Was this on all facelifts?
I'm not sure when the axle went to outboard brakes, my car is a 1993, onWhen were the brakes updated to the out board ones? Was this on all facelifts?
an L plate. It kind of falls between the first facelift which had the small
bumpers retained/AJ6, and the last of the line Celebrations/AJ16.
Your sourcing of a complete spares car is a very good idea.I've bought
the second car to commence work when the first is finished.
Once again best of luck with the car, a nice one and your's will be
a nice one by the sounds of it... turns heads everywhere you will go
in it. And, it feels like nothing else to drive.
Everyone says the XJS resale values will never emulate other Jaguars
( E-type, and MK2 obviously ) That may be so... but I never let that
be a major consideration. If you're building the car for yourself to
keep, it doesn't matter so much. Time will tell.
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