2007 era XKR running costs...
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Fella's ... do it! The newer model is a very reliable very capable car and has the added wow factor I dont think you will find in a BM 
It is not that expensive to service. Every 3rd year is a bigger service and every 6 the biggest. Ordinary one should be about £210-260 at a specialist indy depending on where you go. The bigger service will be £300-340. They dont need much in between though as the engines are pretty much bullet proof with this model.
Drive well ... look great ... have class - what more excuse do you need
... but I may be bias
Good hunting
Robo
It is not that expensive to service. Every 3rd year is a bigger service and every 6 the biggest. Ordinary one should be about £210-260 at a specialist indy depending on where you go. The bigger service will be £300-340. They dont need much in between though as the engines are pretty much bullet proof with this model.
Drive well ... look great ... have class - what more excuse do you need
... but I may be bias
Good hunting
Robo
Was just looking at my literature TN, but it doesn't have the service schedule the old one had, that shows you what needs changing at each service 
The 3yr one is more expensive because you change the plugs. But some other items are even numbered (brake fluid every 2yrs etc)
However, if you check out www.tljaguar.co.uk (recommended independent) you can see some of the prices there. As with all services though, its the 'other items' that add to bills. For instance, gearboxes are filled 'for life' according to Jag but I think I would be inclined to change fluid every 6 yrs to keep it in best condition.
Overall though these are no more expensive than equivalent BMs. However they are in the high VEL bracket so you need to budget for that ... £475 
Also check out our 1-make-specific club for classifieds and help www.xkec.co.uk
Rgds
Robo
Edited to add mine is one of the first new shape 4.2 XK's
The 3yr one is more expensive because you change the plugs. But some other items are even numbered (brake fluid every 2yrs etc)However, if you check out www.tljaguar.co.uk (recommended independent) you can see some of the prices there. As with all services though, its the 'other items' that add to bills. For instance, gearboxes are filled 'for life' according to Jag but I think I would be inclined to change fluid every 6 yrs to keep it in best condition.
Overall though these are no more expensive than equivalent BMs. However they are in the high VEL bracket so you need to budget for that
... £475 Also check out our 1-make-specific club for classifieds and help www.xkec.co.uk
Rgds
Robo
Edited to add mine is one of the first new shape 4.2 XK's
Edited by robocop on Sunday 14th April 18:57
I would definitely go for the xkr if I were you. Just sold my 2007. It's a different level of performance to the 335d - I have driven one - and although I'm undoubtedly biased I think it offers looks and a sense of occasion the BMW won't match. Plus they sound fantastic. Over four years I had mine I reckon the service was £600 - £800 annually with Jaguar main dealer. Tyres can really push it up - the rears are £285 each and it does chew them up and brakes relatively pricey (pads and discs) but other than oil changes they shouldn't require a huge amount doing to them. The only expensive thing that failed on mine was the air con compressor but that was due to stone damage. Otherwise not a single fault during my tenure. Bear in mind the rear seats really are only for decoration or headless dwarves with no feet.
Edited by lear on Sunday 14th April 22:51
Tox I remember you from a while back.
I recently sold my 335d coupe and bought an XFR. I wanted the xkr and saw several before finally admitting to the mrs it wasn't practical with 2 children... I shouldn't have took her to see the two I liked
So anyway the engines are the same so the running cost comparison should be similar.
I think it has reasonable running costs for the power and size. The biggest often most ignored cost is depreciation on these jags but 2007 you have minimised this greatly.
I have a 3 year jaguar service plan which includes free MOTs and I paid £745 for this. I personally think this is a great price.
Tyres are between £220 and £250 and closer to £300 each if you opt to put on Michelin pilot super sports which quite a few do, they give better traction which is welcome with over 500bhp.
Fuel, mine does between 12mpg and 22mpg depending on how and where I drive it. 2 miles down the road into town giving it some loud squirts of the throttle and its going to be about 12mpg. A typical mixed journey long enough to run warm will see between 19mpg and 22mpg. Shorter, colder journeys are around 16mpg to 19mpg. A-road hoons are 12mpg to 16mpg and surprisingly, sticking with traffic flow I returned 31mpg on the way to silverstone las week, but I think I only managed this due to a few miles of 50mph traffic specs cameras. The overall trip was about 27.5 mpg which included some blasts and country roads back after the m-way.
Brakes I think aren't too bad, haven't replaced them yet, don't need to but I looked on ECP and they seemed to come out around £65 per disc, £40 pair of pads, although there were some at £70 and I don't know th difference. Add between £90 and £120 on there for fitting. Certainly beats the 1k + merc wants for their c63 brakes.
Only thing left is warranty. This is between £850 and £1200 per year depending on what you get and who from.
Oh and tax is the full £490
But my insurance is surprisingly cheap, £362 per year for the xfr and I'm 30.
I recently sold my 335d coupe and bought an XFR. I wanted the xkr and saw several before finally admitting to the mrs it wasn't practical with 2 children... I shouldn't have took her to see the two I liked
So anyway the engines are the same so the running cost comparison should be similar.
I think it has reasonable running costs for the power and size. The biggest often most ignored cost is depreciation on these jags but 2007 you have minimised this greatly.
I have a 3 year jaguar service plan which includes free MOTs and I paid £745 for this. I personally think this is a great price.
Tyres are between £220 and £250 and closer to £300 each if you opt to put on Michelin pilot super sports which quite a few do, they give better traction which is welcome with over 500bhp.
Fuel, mine does between 12mpg and 22mpg depending on how and where I drive it. 2 miles down the road into town giving it some loud squirts of the throttle and its going to be about 12mpg. A typical mixed journey long enough to run warm will see between 19mpg and 22mpg. Shorter, colder journeys are around 16mpg to 19mpg. A-road hoons are 12mpg to 16mpg and surprisingly, sticking with traffic flow I returned 31mpg on the way to silverstone las week, but I think I only managed this due to a few miles of 50mph traffic specs cameras. The overall trip was about 27.5 mpg which included some blasts and country roads back after the m-way.
Brakes I think aren't too bad, haven't replaced them yet, don't need to but I looked on ECP and they seemed to come out around £65 per disc, £40 pair of pads, although there were some at £70 and I don't know th difference. Add between £90 and £120 on there for fitting. Certainly beats the 1k + merc wants for their c63 brakes.
Only thing left is warranty. This is between £850 and £1200 per year depending on what you get and who from.
Oh and tax is the full £490
But my insurance is surprisingly cheap, £362 per year for the xfr and I'm 30.
Oh and I agree , driving the xfr is a real occasion, that is my biggest cost, I can't stop driving it. Mine is fitted with a custom exhaust so its quite brutal under even part acceleration.
I couldn't be happier driving it and hearing the v8 working, popping and crackling on overrun down country lanes in the sun... And that's on a big saloon car. I'd love an xkr.
My saloon has attracted a lot of attention since I've had it. Way more in 1 month than my BMW ever had in 2 years. It's defiantly a special car to own. It's defiantly more expensive to run, but if you buy well and do less than 10k miles per year, servicing, brakes etc are manageable.
I couldn't be happier driving it and hearing the v8 working, popping and crackling on overrun down country lanes in the sun... And that's on a big saloon car. I'd love an xkr.
My saloon has attracted a lot of attention since I've had it. Way more in 1 month than my BMW ever had in 2 years. It's defiantly a special car to own. It's defiantly more expensive to run, but if you buy well and do less than 10k miles per year, servicing, brakes etc are manageable.
I have just aquired a XK 2006 but only had it for 6 weeks. so annual costs are unkown but I will be using Wyn Thomas in Epping for my servicing as I used them a few years ago when I had a XJ 4.0 sport
Look at their web site as servicing costs I think are very attractive.
Epping is not that far from East London and its next to the Tube
http://www.wynthomas.com
Look at their web site as servicing costs I think are very attractive.
Epping is not that far from East London and its next to the Tube
http://www.wynthomas.com
About the issues at 60k... I looked into their reliability before shelling out on the xfr, as mentioned I was originally looking for the xkr.
Neither seemed to produce any worrying issues. Not like other manufacturers like a bad batch of 6.2L amg blocks in 2008 or dodgy smg gearboxes in the m5.
Jag have a decent rep for strong v8s and even criticised for using the same block for ages now. I believe I got it wrong in my previous post, you are talking about the 4.2L not the 5.0L in which case that has been used for quite some time.
I believe they changed the engine lining early 2000 as there were problems before this. No gearbox problems to report. Just look for poor cold starting, oil level to check there is no excessive consumption (hard to gauge I know but oil in the boot, low level and time from service might give indicators). Maybe some smoking.
I think the only issue jags suffer from are electrical problems. My electronics defiantly don't seem as fluid and predictable as my 335d.
So far I've had the touch screen go buggy, the rev counter not rise when starting once and a gearbox not in park message. As I'm a software engineer myself or in my previous years, I can attribute these issues to quick starting, ie not giving the car enough time to initialise after unlocking. They are reproducible and don't appear if you wait before starting. The touchscreen was different, I pressed a couple of functions in quick succession which left a dialog box over laying the screen. I think the software is not as thoroughly tested as its German counterparts.
The jag range does suffer with battery issues. They can drain rapidly, for a variety of reasons. Some software updates helped the situation otherwise people were finding 2 weeks was all it took to drain it. I've had a battery low message after watching TV in the car for about 15 mins once.
Neither seemed to produce any worrying issues. Not like other manufacturers like a bad batch of 6.2L amg blocks in 2008 or dodgy smg gearboxes in the m5.
Jag have a decent rep for strong v8s and even criticised for using the same block for ages now. I believe I got it wrong in my previous post, you are talking about the 4.2L not the 5.0L in which case that has been used for quite some time.
I believe they changed the engine lining early 2000 as there were problems before this. No gearbox problems to report. Just look for poor cold starting, oil level to check there is no excessive consumption (hard to gauge I know but oil in the boot, low level and time from service might give indicators). Maybe some smoking.
I think the only issue jags suffer from are electrical problems. My electronics defiantly don't seem as fluid and predictable as my 335d.
So far I've had the touch screen go buggy, the rev counter not rise when starting once and a gearbox not in park message. As I'm a software engineer myself or in my previous years, I can attribute these issues to quick starting, ie not giving the car enough time to initialise after unlocking. They are reproducible and don't appear if you wait before starting. The touchscreen was different, I pressed a couple of functions in quick succession which left a dialog box over laying the screen. I think the software is not as thoroughly tested as its German counterparts.
The jag range does suffer with battery issues. They can drain rapidly, for a variety of reasons. Some software updates helped the situation otherwise people were finding 2 weeks was all it took to drain it. I've had a battery low message after watching TV in the car for about 15 mins once.
I have had a 4.0 S Type, 3.5 XJ and a 4.2 XK and covered 125k in the three cars. All were bought secondhand with between 28k and 45k on the clock,between 3 and 5 years old. They only ever needed brake discs, tyres, batteries, the odd bulb, a couple of interior fan modules and a thermostat apart from the normal services which ranged from £300-£450.
I don't know what your budget is, but I would seriously consider the 5.0 non supercharged model. They are almost as powerful as the 4.2R but more economical.
I don't know what your budget is, but I would seriously consider the 5.0 non supercharged model. They are almost as powerful as the 4.2R but more economical.
I owned an 07 4.2 xkr for 3.5 years and put 65k miles on it. Servicing was 250 for an A, about 550 for a C. Reliable as hell (unlike my 99 xkr). Tyres are a grand for all 4 and they'll be eaten in 15-25k depending on your driving style. Biggest cost is juice, 25mpg again dependent on style and routes. I'd still have it now but I got to 9 points on my license, its a car that LOVES to be driven You can drive the r hard, or travel huge distance in comfort, or pop the top on a cab and just cruise, I recommend a cab.
Fabulous car, you won't regret it.
You can drive the r hard, or travel huge distance in comfort, or pop the top on a cab and just cruise, I recommend a cab.Fabulous car, you won't regret it.
It would be worth driving a NA 4.2 - I think you'll find it feels very different to the BMW even if it looks similar on paper. Also I think you'll find there is a fair bit of negotiating room on price as based on my experience they are not at all easy to sell privately. Mine just went to a dealer for £21500 - 2007 XKR with 36k miles, full jaguar service and top spec portfolio trim, having had £1000 service and MOT a month ago. I had tried to sell it off and on for a year before trading it in against the R-S and would have accepted £22k. I'd certainly go for a better NA than a poor R though.
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The technology is a small sacrifice you'll have to make. The pay off is driving an exclusive sports car with drop dead looks. It's the same story with Aston Martin Vantage/DB9 that has even worse technology inside. I came from Audi's and at first was a little taken back, but the burble of that V8 and constant conversation starter while filling up at the pumps makes the whole thing worth it. I'd take the experience over technology any day. It doesn't bother me at all anymore, I adore my XKR its the only car I can't help but look back at while walking away.johnnnnnnyy said:
The technology is a small sacrifice you'll have to make. The pay off is driving an exclusive sports car with drop dead looks. It's the same story with Aston Martin Vantage/DB9 that has even worse technology inside. I came from Audi's and at first was a little taken back, but the burble of that V8 and constant conversation starter while filling up at the pumps makes the whole thing worth it. I'd take the experience over technology any day. It doesn't bother me at all anymore, I adore my XKR its the only car I can't help but look back at while walking away.
I've reached this conclusion too. I felt hugely disappointed in the touch-screen system in the 2011 XKR I test-drove for 24 hours and it put me off the idea for a couple of weeks (I'm used to the Audi system, which is a decade ahead in comparison) but I started to realise that there's a lot more to the car than the touch-screen. It's something I'm willing to live with because I get the impression from all the reading I've done that it's probably the only thing I'll ever be able to find to criticise.(By the way, if anybody has a 2010 XKR in Kyanite Blue they're thinking of selling, please get in touch!)
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All cars have their pros and cons, it's difficult to have everything in one package. Some cars have great tech, but the looks/design lets them down. Some have the power but don't handle. The list is endless. If you want soul and an exclusive sports car, then Jag ticks those boxes. I have also found the tech/touchscreen in my xfr a little behind the competitors. But the stereo in my xfr is way better than anything I've had in a car before but I never have it on.
I can't get enough of listening to the v8 under acceleration and burble pops and bangs on overrun.
It is important to have a nice cabin but I get much more enjoyment from the driving experience.
Stick with it you will find a well looked after one. My first xfr and c63 viewings turned out to be rough around the edges.
I can't get enough of listening to the v8 under acceleration and burble pops and bangs on overrun.
It is important to have a nice cabin but I get much more enjoyment from the driving experience.
Stick with it you will find a well looked after one. My first xfr and c63 viewings turned out to be rough around the edges.
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