Recurrent problems on your Jaguar
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I have had an XKRS from new. So far i have had every light on the car replaced. Rear lights filled with water, headlights the same, Battery failed twice...The Indicators on the right side failed. The car went in 3 times for it to be corrected and was told they could find nothing wrong. They failed completely a few days later and guess what....despite me telling them the front light unit was faulty and it was full of water...so they could order one up to replace it they had to wait till it was in so they could confirm that and then it took 3 weeks to get a headlight unit and that included a formal complaint to Jaguar. The best thing was being told...'have you changed ti bulb?" "No i can't its an LED sealed unit"....are you sure they say......well don't you know??? Anyone else had persistent recurrent problems.
No, but I know someone who has an XKR-S and rates it as one of the best cars he's owned.He hasn't had any problems with it. You seem to have been very unlucky.
He also owns 2 XKR-S GT's so he must like them.
I had an XKR for a while. Not a single problem.
He also owns 2 XKR-S GT's so he must like them.
I had an XKR for a while. Not a single problem.
Edited by mph on Thursday 8th May 09:21
I had on old XJ8 that had endless problems but it was 9 years old. So not having learned anything I replaced it with my current XJR (now 6 years old) which loves to spend time tucked up at the Jag dealers awaiting parts. Lucky that I bought it with a Jaguar warranty as its had around £5.5k in warranty work in the last 12 months and there is probably near enough £1k of work that will need doing soon.
The biggest problem is that Jag 'technicians' know nothing about cars or how to fix them. If I have a problem I go to my local back street garage that has real mechanics (luckily run by a mate of mine). They diagnose the problem, I then take it to the dealer for fixes.
a few times they have told me there is nothing wrong as the computer says so....I then hand them the official Jaguar Technical Service Bulletin about that problem which also explains how to fix it.
Once time I noticed that the supercharger seals were leaking so the boost pressure was dropping and unmetered air was getting in. This resulted in the engine light coming on. The seals are a few quid and covered under warranty so I told them that was the problem and asked them to replace. When I picked the car up the old seals were still there , apparently the computer had told them it wasnt the seals but the lambda sensors. So they had replaced them all, cleared the codes and it was now fine. Light came back on next day. Went back, this time they insisted it was the catalytic converter(s) . So they replaced them. Guess what ? didnt fix it. Finally convinced them to replace the seals. Problem solved car runs better no more engine light. Must have cost the warranty company at least £1k in un-necessary parts.
The Jag Dealer service check in team have suggested to me that I should use an Independant Jag specialist to have my problems diagnosed in future as they 'know what they are doing' before bringing it to them for the warranty work to be carried out as their guys 'dont do fault diagnosis'.
The biggest problem is that Jag 'technicians' know nothing about cars or how to fix them. If I have a problem I go to my local back street garage that has real mechanics (luckily run by a mate of mine). They diagnose the problem, I then take it to the dealer for fixes.
a few times they have told me there is nothing wrong as the computer says so....I then hand them the official Jaguar Technical Service Bulletin about that problem which also explains how to fix it.
Once time I noticed that the supercharger seals were leaking so the boost pressure was dropping and unmetered air was getting in. This resulted in the engine light coming on. The seals are a few quid and covered under warranty so I told them that was the problem and asked them to replace. When I picked the car up the old seals were still there , apparently the computer had told them it wasnt the seals but the lambda sensors. So they had replaced them all, cleared the codes and it was now fine. Light came back on next day. Went back, this time they insisted it was the catalytic converter(s) . So they replaced them. Guess what ? didnt fix it. Finally convinced them to replace the seals. Problem solved car runs better no more engine light. Must have cost the warranty company at least £1k in un-necessary parts.
The Jag Dealer service check in team have suggested to me that I should use an Independant Jag specialist to have my problems diagnosed in future as they 'know what they are doing' before bringing it to them for the warranty work to be carried out as their guys 'dont do fault diagnosis'.
Dodsy said:
The Jag Dealer service check in team have suggested to me that I should use an Independant Jag specialist to have my problems diagnosed in future as they 'know what they are doing' before bringing it to them for the warranty work to be carried out as their guys 'dont do fault diagnosis'.
I know of an XKR owner whose car went back to his local dealer 5 times to try and fix an intermittent starting issue. Each time a different part was replaced because their diagnostic kit said the part was faulty but the fault persisted. We had his car in the workshop for an upgrade to the sat nav and the owner asked us if we would see if we could find the problem. The fault was identified and as the car was under warranty we had to explain to the main dealer what was required to fix the issue.The diagnostic kit is a very useful tool but it is only a starting point to identifying the issue.
DesignXKR,
Please tell me more!
I have an S-Type 4.2 V8 SE. It's just over 10 years old and has done 128,000 miles, all done by me except for the first 14 miles. Recently, rather like the XK you mentioned, it too has developed an intermittent starting problem. When this happens it's as if it's not firing on all cylinders and runs very rough. Diligent use of the throttle will get it running smoothly and properly, usually after a few seconds. Then it will be fine when running. This problem occurs when cold, warm or hot. It is intermittent: I cannot say how frequently this occurs, maybe every tenth time of starting perhaps. Eventually, on one occasion the amber engine warning light came on plus restricted performance message, so I took the car to my local JMD. The code reader indicated several things apparently, including the engine had been running a bit lean, but there was nothing conclusive. The JMD had the car for five days (including a weekend) because they wanted to try starting the car in different conditions and also seeing what happened from test runs...the car started and ran fine throughout. I have the car back and I've been asked to monitor the situation and report back to the JMD if the problem persists. It has happened twice since I got it back. The JMD charged me for an hour of their time which I thought was reasonable as they had spent longer on their investigations.
So, the JMD cannot identify the problem. My own thoughts are that one of the sensors is playing up. I don't think it's fuel related.
Any thoughts etc will be much appreciated.
R.
Please tell me more!
I have an S-Type 4.2 V8 SE. It's just over 10 years old and has done 128,000 miles, all done by me except for the first 14 miles. Recently, rather like the XK you mentioned, it too has developed an intermittent starting problem. When this happens it's as if it's not firing on all cylinders and runs very rough. Diligent use of the throttle will get it running smoothly and properly, usually after a few seconds. Then it will be fine when running. This problem occurs when cold, warm or hot. It is intermittent: I cannot say how frequently this occurs, maybe every tenth time of starting perhaps. Eventually, on one occasion the amber engine warning light came on plus restricted performance message, so I took the car to my local JMD. The code reader indicated several things apparently, including the engine had been running a bit lean, but there was nothing conclusive. The JMD had the car for five days (including a weekend) because they wanted to try starting the car in different conditions and also seeing what happened from test runs...the car started and ran fine throughout. I have the car back and I've been asked to monitor the situation and report back to the JMD if the problem persists. It has happened twice since I got it back. The JMD charged me for an hour of their time which I thought was reasonable as they had spent longer on their investigations.
So, the JMD cannot identify the problem. My own thoughts are that one of the sensors is playing up. I don't think it's fuel related.
Any thoughts etc will be much appreciated.
R.
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