The Future of Jaguar
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In my opinion it's looking pretty rosy.
Firstly Jaguar have the smaller saloon out next year which should increase sales volumes considerably.
Given their recent run of good form I can't see how a stylish, all aluminium saloon can be anything but good.
They're investing heavily in engine development and there are rumours of more manual gearboxes and development of an F1 engine ....
Maybe time to buy some Jaguar shares ?
Firstly Jaguar have the smaller saloon out next year which should increase sales volumes considerably.
Given their recent run of good form I can't see how a stylish, all aluminium saloon can be anything but good.
They're investing heavily in engine development and there are rumours of more manual gearboxes and development of an F1 engine ....
Maybe time to buy some Jaguar shares ?
GilesGuthrie said:
I would tend to agree, but I think they need to get the next XF out pretty quickly. The current car feels quite staid in comparison with its rivals.
I still think the XF looks cracking, so much so I may get one soon, but should really wait for the XE, but don't know if there will be big diesels put in it from the start. (I hope so!)XF replacement 2015 so a couple more years to go....
Triple7 said:
I still think the XF looks cracking, so much so I may get one soon, but should really wait for the XE, but don't know if there will be big diesels put in it from the start. (I hope so!)
XF replacement 2015 so a couple more years to go....
Me too. XF replacement 2015 so a couple more years to go....
The facelift has refreshed them IMHO and they still look better than the German alternatives.
I voted with my wallet and am on my second one. Italian racing red
XF is still the definitive high quality sports saloon - miles ahead of the Germans - if there is a problem it is that there are quite a few out there. The desire for the next gen XF is that, plus the perception that it will be Ali structured so hopefully lighter. I still don't get the XJ. Dynamically it is very good and the interior is stunning. It is modern and different. For me however the design does not hang together. From certain angles it looks great. From other angles, particularly the rear, and I would say the side, it looks puddingy and overall lacks the athleticism of the X300 or X350. So much so I bought a 640d GC which you could argue is conceptually less advanced, but looks every inch like a large sports saloon. XK and F Type are light years ahead of their opposition. XE is looking good.
Edited by cardigankid on Wednesday 7th May 08:07
I see a bright future.
A difficult phase of "revolution" is behind (and maybe some old Jaglovers were lost) but there seems to be a bright future ahead.
New products, platform, engines
I would love to see some more emphasis also on motorsport
That would certainly be the key for Jaguar future!!!
A difficult phase of "revolution" is behind (and maybe some old Jaglovers were lost) but there seems to be a bright future ahead.
New products, platform, engines
I would love to see some more emphasis also on motorsport
XJ Flyer said:
Hopefully that might mean a supercharged 6.0 litre V12 with manual box option for the new XF and even the XE if they could make it fit.
That would certainly be the key for Jaguar future!!!
As much as I love V12s, there will never be another V12 Jaguar nor a performance saloon with a manual gearbox.
I have an XF on the way, incidently. I don't think it's out dated at all. The Germans all lack any sort of emotive appeal for me. They'd all make great courtesy cars but nothing urges me to buy one.
I have an XF on the way, incidently. I don't think it's out dated at all. The Germans all lack any sort of emotive appeal for me. They'd all make great courtesy cars but nothing urges me to buy one.
Edited by jamieduff1981 on Wednesday 7th May 17:10
mph said:
Triple7 said:
I still think the XF looks cracking, so much so I may get one soon, but should really wait for the XE, but don't know if there will be big diesels put in it from the start. (I hope so!)
XF replacement 2015 so a couple more years to go....
Me too. XF replacement 2015 so a couple more years to go....
The facelift has refreshed them IMHO and they still look better than the German alternatives.
I voted with my wallet and am on my second one. Italian racing red
Riccardino said:
I see a bright future.
A difficult phase of "revolution" is behind (and maybe some old Jaglovers were lost) but there seems to be a bright future ahead.
New products, platform, engines
I would love to see some more emphasis also on motorsport
That would certainly be the key for Jaguar future!!!
I can see how that might be a problem in a world where the average Jaguar buyer would prefer a 4 cylinder diesel and might be a bit challenged in the driving skills department.As for motorsport there's probably not much chance of such a spec being allowed entry to 'touring car' racing either in a world of 4 cylinder eco buzz bombs being all that's allowed by 'the rules'.A difficult phase of "revolution" is behind (and maybe some old Jaglovers were lost) but there seems to be a bright future ahead.
New products, platform, engines
I would love to see some more emphasis also on motorsport
XJ Flyer said:
Hopefully that might mean a supercharged 6.0 litre V12 with manual box option for the new XF and even the XE if they could make it fit.
That would certainly be the key for Jaguar future!!!
Edited by XJ Flyer on Wednesday 7th May 17:45
Edited by XJ Flyer on Wednesday 7th May 17:46
XJ Flyer said:
jamieduff1981 said:
As much as I love V12s, there will never be another V12 Jaguar nor a performance saloon with a manual gearbox.
Unfortunately you're probably right.Which seems to say it all in regards to the direction of the 'performance saloon' market.It's so good that it cast the limitations of my Cerbera gearbox that I drove home from the XF test drive into fairly sharp relief in terms of its slowness. On a thrash up a tight, twisty road my old Cerb wouldn't see where my wife's new family car went.
I like the tactility of a manual gearbox within a classic car context, but its days of association with performance are long gone because it's probably the single biggest performance limitation for any owner who drives with a shred of mechanical sympathy.
I'm not necessarily advocating performance above all else, but halo models do need to compete on paper. Beautiful coupes less so, but when it's a boring 4 door saloon with a big engine it does need to look good in numerical terms because the purchase is less emotive and more practical.
jamieduff1981 said:
XJ Flyer said:
jamieduff1981 said:
As much as I love V12s, there will never be another V12 Jaguar nor a performance saloon with a manual gearbox.
Unfortunately you're probably right.Which seems to say it all in regards to the direction of the 'performance saloon' market.It's so good that it cast the limitations of my Cerbera gearbox that I drove home from the XF test drive into fairly sharp relief in terms of its slowness. On a thrash up a tight, twisty road my old Cerb wouldn't see where my wife's new family car went.
I like the tactility of a manual gearbox within a classic car context, but its days of association with performance are long gone because it's probably the single biggest performance limitation for any owner who drives with a shred of mechanical sympathy.
I'm not necessarily advocating performance above all else, but halo models do need to compete on paper. Beautiful coupes less so, but when it's a boring 4 door saloon with a big engine it does need to look good in numerical terms because the purchase is less emotive and more practical.
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