Jaguar XJ Diesel
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I caught up with this weeks Top Gear finally & the diesel Jaguar left me very impressed. I had a quick look on Autotrader & for a 2 year old model the prices seem pretty reasonable. However anyone care to comment on servicing costs & reliability please compared to my current drive which is a 2.2 petrol BMW 5 series.
I've always had a bit of a soft spot for the big cats but the previous reliability issues & running costs had always put me off.
TIA
Andrew
I've always had a bit of a soft spot for the big cats but the previous reliability issues & running costs had always put me off.
TIA
Andrew
The aluminum XJ as featured on TG is a fantastic car. You won't have any issues. It is very well designed, well built and very well equipped and has great road presence if you get the XJ Sport Premium with the big wheels. It is the best, most under rated motorway muncher, pop down the shops, go out for a posh dinner car you can get.
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Edited by Triple7 on Wednesday 26th November 20:22
Honest John has a road test and a full description of the XJ Diseasiel on the Telegraph website.
I think there's also been another economy run done with one, in which it managed over 1000 miles on a road trip round the UK on a single tank of fuel.
I'd buy one
XJ performance and comfort as well as Eurobox economy? What more could you possibly want?
I think there's also been another economy run done with one, in which it managed over 1000 miles on a road trip round the UK on a single tank of fuel.
I'd buy one
XJ performance and comfort as well as Eurobox economy? What more could you possibly want?
A great car. It does what it says on the tin!. A much more involving car than the German equivalents. You sit in it rather than on it. A 5-series is different, mainly due to the size. I have been looking at a 535 M Sport and that is probably the alternative. Better still an A8 4.2 Tdi quattro sport.
Edited by Henry Harris on Friday 28th November 14:55
Watching that episode inspired me to see how much I could eek out of my 2003 XJR the other night going home.
Country 'A' roads, bit of dual carriage way, bit of town.... managed to get it to exactly 30MPG as I arrived home after a trip of about, I guess, 25miles.
Sitting at a steady 50MPH returns about 40mpg so long as you don't press the load pedal to hard at any point.
Drove back in to work the following morning more normally but still quite snoothly and the average fell back to 25mpg over the total 50 miles.
Which is still a big improvement over the average of the last 3K miles which is 19mpg.... but that is based on 'enjoying' the car's performance
Country 'A' roads, bit of dual carriage way, bit of town.... managed to get it to exactly 30MPG as I arrived home after a trip of about, I guess, 25miles.
Sitting at a steady 50MPH returns about 40mpg so long as you don't press the load pedal to hard at any point.
Drove back in to work the following morning more normally but still quite snoothly and the average fell back to 25mpg over the total 50 miles.
Which is still a big improvement over the average of the last 3K miles which is 19mpg.... but that is based on 'enjoying' the car's performance
Piersman2 said:
Watching that episode inspired me to see how much I could eek out of my 2003 XJR the other night going home.
Country 'A' roads, bit of dual carriage way, bit of town.... managed to get it to exactly 30MPG as I arrived home after a trip of about, I guess, 25miles.
Sitting at a steady 50MPH returns about 40mpg so long as you don't press the load pedal to hard at any point.
Drove back in to work the following morning more normally but still quite snoothly and the average fell back to 25mpg over the total 50 miles.
Which is still a big improvement over the average of the last 3K miles which is 19mpg.... but that is based on 'enjoying' the car's performance
Is that the diesel version ?Country 'A' roads, bit of dual carriage way, bit of town.... managed to get it to exactly 30MPG as I arrived home after a trip of about, I guess, 25miles.
Sitting at a steady 50MPH returns about 40mpg so long as you don't press the load pedal to hard at any point.
Drove back in to work the following morning more normally but still quite snoothly and the average fell back to 25mpg over the total 50 miles.
Which is still a big improvement over the average of the last 3K miles which is 19mpg.... but that is based on 'enjoying' the car's performance
I hired an XJ sport diesel in black over the summer for a weekend and absolutely loved it. In a similar position to the OP and am considering a diesel barge as my next car and if I do the XJ may well be top of the list especially with prices in freefall. Note the Mannheim auctions thread, 72k mile XJ under £10k!! From my limited experience.
Likes:
Road presence
Looks (esp in black)
Relaxed drive but also went pretty well too when pressing on
Dislikes:
Boot was somewhat shallow compared to others
The Ford Fiesta key was cheap
Likes:
Road presence
Looks (esp in black)
Relaxed drive but also went pretty well too when pressing on
Dislikes:
Boot was somewhat shallow compared to others
The Ford Fiesta key was cheap
taxboy said:
Piersman2 said:
Watching that episode inspired me to see how much I could eek out of my 2003 XJR the other night going home.
Country 'A' roads, bit of dual carriage way, bit of town.... managed to get it to exactly 30MPG as I arrived home after a trip of about, I guess, 25miles.
Sitting at a steady 50MPH returns about 40mpg so long as you don't press the load pedal to hard at any point.
Drove back in to work the following morning more normally but still quite snoothly and the average fell back to 25mpg over the total 50 miles.
Which is still a big improvement over the average of the last 3K miles which is 19mpg.... but that is based on 'enjoying' the car's performance
Is that the diesel version ?Country 'A' roads, bit of dual carriage way, bit of town.... managed to get it to exactly 30MPG as I arrived home after a trip of about, I guess, 25miles.
Sitting at a steady 50MPH returns about 40mpg so long as you don't press the load pedal to hard at any point.
Drove back in to work the following morning more normally but still quite snoothly and the average fell back to 25mpg over the total 50 miles.
Which is still a big improvement over the average of the last 3K miles which is 19mpg.... but that is based on 'enjoying' the car's performance
tr7v8 said:
taxboy said:
Piersman2 said:
Watching that episode inspired me to see how much I could eek out of my 2003 XJR the other night going home.
Country 'A' roads, bit of dual carriage way, bit of town.... managed to get it to exactly 30MPG as I arrived home after a trip of about, I guess, 25miles.
Sitting at a steady 50MPH returns about 40mpg so long as you don't press the load pedal to hard at any point.
Drove back in to work the following morning more normally but still quite snoothly and the average fell back to 25mpg over the total 50 miles.
Which is still a big improvement over the average of the last 3K miles which is 19mpg.... but that is based on 'enjoying' the car's performance
Is that the diesel version ?Country 'A' roads, bit of dual carriage way, bit of town.... managed to get it to exactly 30MPG as I arrived home after a trip of about, I guess, 25miles.
Sitting at a steady 50MPH returns about 40mpg so long as you don't press the load pedal to hard at any point.
Drove back in to work the following morning more normally but still quite snoothly and the average fell back to 25mpg over the total 50 miles.
Which is still a big improvement over the average of the last 3K miles which is 19mpg.... but that is based on 'enjoying' the car's performance
Indeed, the 4.2 Supercharger is what I'm on about. 400bhp and still able to return thes kind of mileage figures!I have an XJ 2.7D Sport Premium, copied below is my response to a similar query on another forum...One thing to add, had a major service done recently - £425 plus another £250 for various replacements (pads, wipers, etc.).
I've had mine for a year now. I had high expectations when I chose this car and they have been met for the most part. I still love getting in the car and just driving it.
With the exception of some Ford like switchgear, the interior is comfortable and luxurious. Most things work fine, apart from the Sat Nav which is not great (search for Sat Nav posts and you will get the idea). Worth checking if your car has the latest 2008/9 version disk and try to get the dealer to upgrade if not. Boot space is fine, but not vast for such a large vehicle.
As far as the engine is concerned, I really like the 2.7D. I like the low end torque and it has great mid range acceleration. It returns about 34 mpg via trip computer, but this consistently overstates mpg by 10%, so 31 mpg in reality. It is great to go 600 miles on a tank full, but not so great to pay £100 to fill it.
With the Exhaust Particulate Filter, there are no black plumes from the exhaust at all, even under hard acceleration (EPF requires regular trips at 40mph or more to burn off particulates, so this engine is not suited to mainly short, urban use – search for DPF threads for more info). Some owners have also had problems with smoke/fumes from the fuel heater (kicks in when the outside temperature is low). I’ve had no problems with either DPF or fuel heater.
The car is great to drive. The automatic gearbox is very good and well matched with the 2.7D. With rear wheel drive and a lack of torque steer under acceleration the car is “well balanced”. It is, and feels like, a big car to drive (I would not be without the front/rear parking sensors). Although plenty powerful, it is a little slow to pick up from a standing start – I think this is a combination of the ECU and the turbo boost building up as revs increase.
The Adaptive Cruise Control is great, particularly on the motorway.
As far as reliability is concerned, I’ve had a couple of niggles and the car has been back to the garage 2 or 3 times – annoying, but nothing serious.
Arguably, there are better designed/engineered cars in this segment, but I look at it like this; the style, image and relative exclusivity of the XJ’s more than makes up for Jaguars not being as "perfect" as BMWs or Mercs. They have character.
Enjoy and let me know how you get on.
I've had mine for a year now. I had high expectations when I chose this car and they have been met for the most part. I still love getting in the car and just driving it.
With the exception of some Ford like switchgear, the interior is comfortable and luxurious. Most things work fine, apart from the Sat Nav which is not great (search for Sat Nav posts and you will get the idea). Worth checking if your car has the latest 2008/9 version disk and try to get the dealer to upgrade if not. Boot space is fine, but not vast for such a large vehicle.
As far as the engine is concerned, I really like the 2.7D. I like the low end torque and it has great mid range acceleration. It returns about 34 mpg via trip computer, but this consistently overstates mpg by 10%, so 31 mpg in reality. It is great to go 600 miles on a tank full, but not so great to pay £100 to fill it.
With the Exhaust Particulate Filter, there are no black plumes from the exhaust at all, even under hard acceleration (EPF requires regular trips at 40mph or more to burn off particulates, so this engine is not suited to mainly short, urban use – search for DPF threads for more info). Some owners have also had problems with smoke/fumes from the fuel heater (kicks in when the outside temperature is low). I’ve had no problems with either DPF or fuel heater.
The car is great to drive. The automatic gearbox is very good and well matched with the 2.7D. With rear wheel drive and a lack of torque steer under acceleration the car is “well balanced”. It is, and feels like, a big car to drive (I would not be without the front/rear parking sensors). Although plenty powerful, it is a little slow to pick up from a standing start – I think this is a combination of the ECU and the turbo boost building up as revs increase.
The Adaptive Cruise Control is great, particularly on the motorway.
As far as reliability is concerned, I’ve had a couple of niggles and the car has been back to the garage 2 or 3 times – annoying, but nothing serious.
Arguably, there are better designed/engineered cars in this segment, but I look at it like this; the style, image and relative exclusivity of the XJ’s more than makes up for Jaguars not being as "perfect" as BMWs or Mercs. They have character.
Enjoy and let me know how you get on.
jagiam said:
Jaguars not being as "perfect" as BMWs or Mercs.
Well if my experience of owning a Merc from new is anything to go by they are nothing like perfect. I'd love my misses Merc to be as reliable as my Jag.At a party a couple of years ago she met a bloke, they kept looking at each other thinking "I'm sure I know you from somewhere"
Then the bloke said, "I know, the service dept at Greenoaks"
Mrs Hex was then thinking "OH NO, don't say you work there" but then the bloke said
"You're always queueing up to get your car sorted, when I'm there trying to get them to fix mine"
I wonder whether any modern car is ever perfect. Maybe they are just to complex for their own good. As the quality improves, more bits are being added, so there are just more things to go wrong.
Henry Harris said:
The latest:
Jaguar does not give out technical information to customers like me to protect my interests.
An independent gearbox specialist informs me that:
a) The symptoms when cold are to allow the catalytic converters to warm up
b) The symptoms under normal driving conditions are expected and are due to the gearbox lock-up mechanism.
Any comments would be welcome.
What symptoms ?Jaguar does not give out technical information to customers like me to protect my interests.
An independent gearbox specialist informs me that:
a) The symptoms when cold are to allow the catalytic converters to warm up
b) The symptoms under normal driving conditions are expected and are due to the gearbox lock-up mechanism.
Any comments would be welcome.
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