BHP Mods for the 3.0 SE Auto S- Type
BHP Mods for the 3.0 SE Auto S- Type
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Pasco

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6,652 posts

250 months

Tuesday 13th January 2009
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I have a S-Type 3.0 SE Face lift registered 11/03

The motor is in as factory standard form smile

What options do i have to increase HP ?

Is it worth looking at Breathing K&N ? Or an ECU chip ? if so what can i expect HP increase and how much please smile

Has anyone gone down this road ?

Any info or suggestions please Gratefully Received thumbup

Pasco



NB If i had realised how good the mpg was on the V6 i would have brought a V8 powered motor yes

G_T

16,163 posts

212 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Can't really comment on your engine specifically mate but I can say from experience to be wary of "induction kits" and the like. Whilst I think K&N replacement panel filters do offer a mild improvement (as long as they are properly maintained) induction kits and the like tend to take air from the surrounding of the engine and so intake warmer air = less dense = less power. Although this can be less of an issue at speed depending on the car.

Even the XJR models with their very restrictive set ups porbably don't benefit from cheaper induction kits for this reason. With the exception of less restrictive induction that feeds cold air from the front of the car using like the one offered by Paramount Performance they may actually reduce power.

Remap/Nitrous would be your best bet. Or save up for the S-Type R or V8 models. They're becoming increasingly cheap.




The Leaper

5,473 posts

228 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Pasco,

I'd agree with GT's last statement. I have had two S-Type V8 SEs, the latest being a 4.2 that I've owned from almost new (it was a demo car, 14 miles on the clock) since February 2004, and still have it. 300 BHP is significantly better than the V6. And the STR is even better of course. All the S-Type V8s are good value now so why not do a deal rather than play around with the V6?

R.

Pasco

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250 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Thanks for the comments chaps smile

I totally agree with both of your comments regarding the V8 motor but i was just interested to know what i could expect with a re chip etc.


In the TVR 5.0 Ltr V8 world the rule of the thumb is £100 per HP.

Has anyone re chipped a 3 ltr V6 ? to what costs and results i wonder scratchchin




G_T

16,163 posts

212 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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It won't cost you £100/HP if you go the way of forced induction though mate. Par example on my car before I found cheaper parts elsewhere;

Pulley upgrade ~20bhp £300 (Paramount £300 + VAT)
-BMC induction ~12bhp £200 (Paramount £250 + VAT)
-De-cat pipes ~13bhp ~£400 (Stainless steel creations)
-Remap ~25bhp ~£300 (Paramount £500 + VAT)


Total ~60bhp ~£1200

-20% Bullst factor = 48bhp. £20/bhp (1200/60)

~413bhp
(Based on new from factory spec.)


Edit: Just to clarify I had this written down elsewhere and I know it isn't that accurate!


Edited by G_T on Wednesday 14th January 16:32

NormanD

3,208 posts

250 months

Wednesday 14th January 2009
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Pasco said:
In the TVR 5.0 Ltr V8 world the rule of the thumb is £100 per HP.

Has anyone re chipped a 3 ltr V6 ? to what costs and results i wonder scratchchin
In my neck of the woods Paramount Performance re-set the ECU 01753-533633

I think about £300-£400 for 20+ bhp

Pasco

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6,652 posts

250 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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Thanks chaps but what about V6 ECU Chip scratchchin


OK so can someone tell me the history of the 3.0ltr S-Type Engine......Is it a Ford motor ?

What else is this power plant in ?

Cheers

Pasco

a8hex

5,832 posts

245 months

Thursday 15th January 2009
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If you search back through the forum there is a very detailed history of the engine, from the sounds of it written by someone involved in the project somewhere along the line. The block is from the Ford "Duratec" (or some such) engine, the heads were specific to Jaguar as where the internals of the engine. The block seems able to take a huge amount of tuning, the Noble guys get well over 500BHP out of it. The Jonathan Palmer single seaters use the Jaguar version of the engine.

Sorry I can't remember who wrote the article.

Pasco

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250 months

Tuesday 27th January 2009
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So talking of forced induction is anyone aware of any tuners who have done a Turbo or Supercharger job on the 3.0Ltr V6 S-Type Jag ?

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NormanD

3,208 posts

250 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Pasco said:
So talking of forced induction is anyone aware of any tuners who have done a Turbo or Supercharger job on the 3.0Ltr V6 S-Type Jag ?
I am sure that Elite Performance did a Turbo or Superchager conversion on a 3.0 Ltr X-Type a few years ago

Pasco

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Wednesday 28th January 2009
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NormanD said:
Pasco said:
So talking of forced induction is anyone aware of any tuners who have done a Turbo or Supercharger job on the 3.0Ltr V6 S-Type Jag ?
I am sure that Elite Performance did a Turbo or Superchager conversion on a 3.0 Ltr X-Type a few years ago
Thanks Norman where are Elite based ? Any other info on this would be much appreciated thumbup


NormanD

3,208 posts

250 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Pasco said:
NormanD said:
Pasco said:
So talking of forced induction is anyone aware of any tuners who have done a Turbo or Supercharger job on the 3.0Ltr V6 S-Type Jag ?
I am sure that Elite Performance did a Turbo or Superchager conversion on a 3.0 Ltr X-Type a few years ago
Thanks Norman where are Elite based ? Any other info on this would be much appreciated thumbup
Derby, this is their contact page http://www.eapj.com/contact.php

Pasco

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Wednesday 28th January 2009
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NormanD said:
Pasco said:
NormanD said:
Pasco said:
So talking of forced induction is anyone aware of any tuners who have done a Turbo or Supercharger job on the 3.0Ltr V6 S-Type Jag ?
I am sure that Elite Performance did a Turbo or Superchager conversion on a 3.0 Ltr X-Type a few years ago
Thanks Norman where are Elite based ? Any other info on this would be much appreciated thumbup
Derby, this is their contact page http://www.eapj.com/contact.php[/quote

fk Me no more than 15 miles from me woohoo

Thanks Buddy thumbup

NormanD

3,208 posts

250 months

Wednesday 28th January 2009
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Pasco said:
NormanD said:
Derby, this is their contact page http://www.eapj.com/contact.php
fk Me no more than 15 miles from me woohoo

Thanks Buddy thumbup
Here is there S-Type page http://www.eapj.com/enhancement_stype.php

Edited by NormanD on Wednesday 28th January 22:28

Pasco

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Wednesday 28th January 2009
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NormanD said:
Pasco said:
NormanD said:
Derby, this is their contact page http://www.eapj.com/contact.php
fk Me no more than 15 miles from me woohoo

Thanks Buddy thumbup
Here is there S-Type page http://www.eapj.com/enhancement_stype.php

Edited by NormanD on Wednesday 28th January 22:28
Thanks For the Help Mate Most Kind thumbup