Jaguar XFR Purchase negotiation advice

[UK Chim]

Hi fellow PHers.

Looks like I may be joining the jaguar fold Still gonna keep the TVR though.

Went to view the new XFR yesterday and have a test drive booked in for this coming Friday.

My question is this: List price is £59,900 and the salesman seems keen to do a deal, so was wondering if any one could give me some advice re-negotiating a good price with him.

Many thanks for any help and roll on Friday.

Steven

[Triple7]

Which Surrey dealer? Is it a car they actually have at the Dealership, is it a dealer pre-reg or demo or brand new and unreg'd?

Word was that you could get 5-7% discount when XF was first launched. The XFR is a different beast, I would have thought they wouldn't want to offer anything, but it is the end of March and the end of financial year may well be with them and want to get in a sale. What colour and what options does it have?

It is a stonking car...............

[UK Chim]

Hi Triple7

Guy Salmon-Thames Ditton, would be new and un-registered. Was thinking Kyanite blue with charcoal interior. 8 week delivery time. Not sure on the extas to go for as it is pretty well loaded with toys. Prob rear parking with the camera and jaguar voice, poss heated steering wheel. Other options are electric rear sun blind, jet suede headlining, dab radio, B&W sound system, digi/analogue TV, adaptive cruise control, blind spot monitor, glass sunroof and portable audio interface.

Steven

[Triple7]

UK Chim said:

Hi Triple7

Guy Salmon-Thames Ditton, would be new and un-registered. Was thinking Kyanite blue with charcoal interior. 8 week delivery time. Not sure on the extas to go for as it is pretty well loaded with toys. Prob rear parking with the camera and jaguar voice, poss heated steering wheel. Other options are electric rear sun blind, jet suede headlining, dab radio, B&W sound system, digi/analogue TV, adaptive cruise control, blind spot monitor, glass sunroof and portable audio interface.

Steven

You going to buy the demo then, if so wait a couple of weeks I've had to reschedule my test drive until the week after next!

My thoughts, Kyanite Blue is a v personal colour choice, don't think they'll sell many. I wasn't a huge fan when I saw it in the flesh.

As for options definitely the rear park with camera, the rear brake light blocks the rear view quite a bit. I've got voice control on my Discovery and never use it, so IMHO don't bother. I do however use the tv quite a bit so recommend that option and have always loved the adaptive cruise for UK motorways, but it is a seldom ordered option on Jags. Gotta get the sun roof to hear the howl and while you are at it get the B&W sound. However, if you are just going to use your ipod to source you music, the B&W will be a waste as the compressed files on ipods will not let you enjoy the sound they produce. Once you have had an heated steering wheel you will never want to be without......I think all the options only add up to about £4k so treat yourself.

Let me know how you get on with the deal, PM me in private if you want.......who you dealing with Marco?

[UK Chim]

Dealing with Steve. Don't worry not the demo so your ok for next week There demo car is grey. Also like the black but it's so difficult to keep looking good. Will let you know how I get on with the negotiations so you get a bit of a heads up.

Steven

[The Pits]

great choice! I don't think it will be long before I'm knocking on the dealer's door either

the XFR is going to be some car.

regarding haggling, I guess all you can do is make it clear that are definitely going to buy an XFR, whether or not you buy one from that dealer is up to him. Make it clear you're after a good deal and that you're prepared to shop around to get it. I'm sure you'll get lots of stuff about it being a new model in limited numbers etc but be prepared to walk out of the showroom if the dealer isn't prepared to budge. you can always walk back in again a week later.

my favourite trick is to play on that a bit. I tell them what they have to do to get me to sign a deal today. If they go for it i shake their hand and sign up there and then. if not I walk out.

i think we have to be realistic about a new model if ordered from the factory. The real bargains are only going to be had on demonstrators or stock in the showroom they want to shift. But there are always opportunities to haggle in a market like this. Just don't expect £10k off the price but to get a few extras thrown in for free should be possible I'd have thought - especially if you're keeping the TVR and not looking to part exchange anything.

best of luck and give us a full report after the test drive, ideally with pics!

Edited by The Pits on Thursday 2nd April 15:16

[UK Chim]

Thanks for the advice Pits. Nice Tuscan by the way. Will give you the run down after test drive. My wife is Irish comes from Mullingar, Westmeath.

Steven

[The Pits]

Eagerly awaiting how you got on.

Perhaps the best negotiation tactic would be to do us a deal for buying two of them!

[UK Chim]

Hey Pits I like your thinking Had a good long test drive and ............................................................................................................................I loved it so much I bought the car Black with the black and red leather. Usual extra toys and negotiated a 5% discount. Not to shabby a discount I think. Should get it in about 8 weeks.

Steven

[The Pits]

Wow that's quick work. Congratulations and fair play to you for supporting a great British marque at a very tough time. All that aside you're ending up with all the saloon car you'll ever need and then some. I'm sure it will be a joy to own and it's a genuine supercar frightener. Let's not forget you'll have the same bhp as a £170k DBS, lots more torque and four proper seats. As mentioned I'm not sure how long I'll be able to hold out myself!
Great job on the haggling you did better than I thought was possible. Have you got any tips for me?!

[Stedman]

Congrats! Sounds like your a happy chappy

[V8A*ndy]

UK Chim said:

Hey Pits I like your thinking Had a good long test drive and ............................................................................................................................I loved it so much I bought the car Black with the black and red leather. Usual extra toys and negotiated a 5% discount. Not to shabby a discount I think. Should get it in about 8 weeks.

Steven

Bet that will be your longest 8 weeks ever! 5% well done

[UK Chim]

Cheers all.

Take your point Pits. Who would buy an Aston now over a Jag. Not sure I could give you any pointers re-haggling but gives you a good starting point if you take the plunge.

If you ever come over in that Tuscan of yours PM me.

All the best

Steven

[The Pits]

I can't pretend for a minute that I wouldn't love a DBS mind, but the new Jags do offer amazing value for money, especially the XFR. It's a cutting edge car and I'm sure the reports will continue to glow.

As it happens Mrs Pits hired me a DBS for the day for my birthday. I'm sure I'll enjoy it a lot, I loved the DB9, but it will have to go some to justify the extra cash. Luckily Mrs Pits likes Astons but I think she was hoping that hiring one would get it out of my system, not put one in the garage! It would definitely be a tougher sell than a decent four seater XFR!

The tuscan's actually kept in the UK but I hope to be using it at the end of may to take it down to Le Mans with my bro who has a Ford GT. There's a trackday there we're booked on, the week before the actual 24hr race. The GT is in gulf colours so it will look amazing going down the pit straight. Bro figures it's got to go there at least once. The tuscan, well that's got a Le Mans finishing and GT car winning engine in it hasn't it? So it probably better be along for the ride too.

Nice trip to run the new Jag in too no? And Jaguar and Le Mans go back way further than either Ford or TVR!

[UK Chim]

Funnily enough my wife and my friend ukcerb's wife got together and bought us a go in an Aston at Silverston on the 31st May. Used to go to Le Mans every year but for the last 3 years been taking the cars on driving holidays. Went to the Millau Bridge and then on to Barcelona last year, and ukcerb and I are off again on the 5th June for a week. Might take the Jag if its here in time, having said that I do enjoy driving the Chimaera. You and your bro are gonna have a ball racing round the Le Mans track You never know we might be able to meet up for a beer if our trips over lap.

Steven

[red355]

Broadspeed are offering £5815 discount on a XFR at 54085 or 52887 for a pre-reg

[V8A*ndy]

red355 said:

Broadspeed are offering £5815 discount on a XFR at 54085 or 52887 for a pre-reg

Have you had experience with Broadspeed per chance? Quoting 48k for pre reg xk 5.0. Would you still be able to get dealer special offer finance with that as well?

[red355]

V8A*ndy said:

red355 said:

Broadspeed are offering £5815 discount on a XFR at 54085 or 52887 for a pre-reg

Have you had experience with Broadspeed per chance? Quoting 48k for pre reg xk 5.0. Would you still be able to get dealer special offer finance with that as well?

I bought my current car thru them a BMW 335 coupe ...all thy do is put into touch with a main dealer (usually one of their own group) with a predetermined level of haggle done for you.

[V8A*ndy]

red355 said:

V8A*ndy said:

red355 said:

Broadspeed are offering £5815 discount on a XFR at 54085 or 52887 for a pre-reg

Have you had experience with Broadspeed per chance? Quoting 48k for pre reg xk 5.0. Would you still be able to get dealer special offer finance with that as well?

I bought my current car thru them a BMW 335 coupe ...all thy do is put into touch with a main dealer (usually one of their own group) with a predetermined level of haggle done for you.

Cheers for the reply. Did the quote you saw first on their site match up with the dealers price OK?

[red355]

V8A*ndy said:

red355 said:

V8A*ndy said:

red355 said:

Broadspeed are offering £5815 discount on a XFR at 54085 or 52887 for a pre-reg

Have you had experience with Broadspeed per chance? Quoting 48k for pre reg xk 5.0. Would you still be able to get dealer special offer finance with that as well?

I bought my current car thru them a BMW 335 coupe ...all thy do is put into touch with a main dealer (usually one of their own group) with a predetermined level of haggle done for you.

Cheers for the reply. Did the quote you saw first on their site match up with the dealers price OK?

Quote was to the penny correct, options where discounted as well

I ordered my car 3 months before they where launched (Sept 06) and they just offered the discount shown on the website without any haggling.
I was upfront with my local dealer who won't budge at all as it was "a new model SIR, we don't need to discount". My final chance to them was go 1/2 on a service pack and I will buy from you and place deposit now. They said no can do..... I did have to use the local dealer about a month in to sort out a minor fault, bumped into the salesman who was shocked that I got the price of the leather interior + more off.

I did say you had the chance (twice)

Broadspeed is a internet front for inchcape so the jag dealers would probably be http://www.minster-jaguar.co.uk/