Buying an early XKR - a bit of help
Buying an early XKR - a bit of help
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Republik

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4,525 posts

213 months

Thursday 21st May 2009
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As a favour to a friend I'm helping him find an early XKR. He is looking upto £12k but is hoping that budget will include his insurance, any necessary repairs and a service. The ones I've found whilst searching seem to have intergalactic mileage or a have problems.

Can anyone advise me on what we need to be looking for?

- Problems that may arise from higher mileage examples
- Known voulnerable weak points
- Essential kit
- Colours and interiors to buy, and equally which to avoid.

Also, is the XKR worth the extra money over a standard XK? I'm adamant it is, but my mate isn't sure and is willing to look elsewhere in order to save a bit of cash.

Any help, advice, website links or links to past threads would be a superb help as he plans on making a purchase before Sunday.

P700DEE

1,181 posts

253 months

Thursday 21st May 2009
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Yes the R is worth the extra over an 8 smile
consider joining the xkec wink
For 8s and Rs , tensioners, gearbox oil.
Expect all cars to need suspension bushes etc.
No major age related issues and what do you call high miles ?
Mine has done 107K miles and has just sprung a leak on the water pipes to the heater (supercharger removal required frown) but still drives like new
100K miles is nothing for a well maintained Nikasil engine and any car 10 years old should be around that mileage.

Republik

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213 months

Thursday 21st May 2009
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The cheaper ones. £7k - £9k are all over 100k miles. Which I'd consider high mileage. We've even found one with 158,000 miles on the clock for a touch of £6000.

He seems keen and is genuinely excited by the prospect of it, I'm the one using my head and researching so he doesn't catch a cold.

bobfrance

1,323 posts

290 months

Thursday 21st May 2009
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I get the impression you may be in the Manchester area.

If your mate wants one checking out or any work done, I can highly recommend my mechanic, he's a Jaguar specialist and looked after my XJR-S. He will save you a fortune over main dealers and he may even know of some good ones for sale.

Steven Heywood Auto Engineers (Based in Rochdale) Tel: 01706 719111
He's a great bloke, but if you want a car checking out, you'll have to take it to him, he doesn't have time to travel.


Hope this helps.

Bob.

Republik

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Thursday 21st May 2009
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thumbup Cheers Bob. I am in Manchester. My mate lives south of Manchester in Knutsford, Cheshire, its a bit of a hike to Rochdale but I'll pass on his details and see what he thinks. I know if it was me I would be prepared to travel if I was parting with that much cash.

bobfrance

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Thursday 21st May 2009
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Republik said:
thumbup Cheers Bob. I am in Manchester. My mate lives south of Manchester in Knutsford, Cheshire, its a bit of a hike to Rochdale but I'll pass on his details and see what he thinks. I know if it was me I would be prepared to travel if I was parting with that much cash.
Too right!

If nothing else, get it thoroughly checked out there and make a yearly pilgrimage to have it serviced. That little investment of extra time could save you £1000's in the long run.

Let me know if you come across anyone selling an XKR who wants a Boxster. I quite fancy going back to Jags again. smile

Bob.

Republik

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Thursday 21st May 2009
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bobfrance said:
Republik said:
thumbup Cheers Bob. I am in Manchester. My mate lives south of Manchester in Knutsford, Cheshire, its a bit of a hike to Rochdale but I'll pass on his details and see what he thinks. I know if it was me I would be prepared to travel if I was parting with that much cash.
Too right!

If nothing else, get it thoroughly checked out there and make a yearly pilgrimage to have it serviced. That little investment of extra time could save you £1000's in the long run.

Let me know if you come across anyone selling an XKR who wants a Boxster. I quite fancy going back to Jags again. smile

Bob.
How do you find the Boxster? I had an extended 2 hour test drive in a Cayman S last week and it was superb.

bobfrance

1,323 posts

290 months

Thursday 21st May 2009
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Can't fault the Boxster, best all-round convertible you can buy IMHO.
I've had it about 4 years and ran it it all weathers. It's now done 100k and still doesn't use/lose even a drop of oil between services. It's not great in snow, but neither are BMW or Mercs wink

I'm only thinking of changing because I'm a bit bored of convertibles and fancy a bit of Jag comfort and waft.



Republik

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Thursday 21st May 2009
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Is the steel lined engine a good or bad thing?

varsas

4,071 posts

225 months

Friday 22nd May 2009
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Unless I have misunderstand what you mean...

Read here: http://www.bavarian-board.co.uk/nikasil.htm

it's about BMW but it applies.

All early V8 Jaguar engines (pre 2001? of and the '250 was a Turner engine, before anyone puts their anorak on!) suffered.

A steel lined engine is a good thing, unless you are brave (Nikasil engines are better but may cause problems)

bobfrance

1,323 posts

290 months

Friday 22nd May 2009
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I believe the general consensus to be that if a Nikasil engined car is achieving good compression then it should be fine. Apparently the problems were caused by a fuel mixture that is no longer sold.

varsas

4,071 posts

225 months

Friday 22nd May 2009
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bobfrance said:
I believe the general consensus to be that if a Nikasil engined car is achieving good compression then it should be fine. Apparently the problems were caused by a fuel mixture that is no longer sold.
It's caused by a combination of slow running and high sulpher fuel (I believe you need both to cause the sulphuric acid that eats the coating away to form). High sulpher fuel is no longer available, so any Nickasil engine that is OK now should be OK forever (in theory!), but you'd want to have a compression/leak down test done before you brought it.

Oh, also don't think it's been mentioned....early XK's had plastic water pumps (as did so many cars of the time) which are problematic.

Edited by varsas on Friday 22 May 13:13