X308 No hot air from heater
X308 No hot air from heater
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Inverness

Original Poster:

556 posts

204 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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The heater is only blowing out cold air, no hot/warm air. Anybody with any ideas?

Piersman2

6,676 posts

225 months

Monday 25th January 2010
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Most likely to be the heating solenoid/pump which can jam. It's located near the header tank and switches water to flow through to the heater matrix inside the car. I think if you do a google search you'll find instructions how to check and fix.

a8hex

5,832 posts

249 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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Does the engine come up to temp?
When my X300 did this it was the termostat, but the whole engine wouldn't come up to temperature. Even if I pre-heated it (cloud9) it would be cold within a couple of hundred yards.

TTwiggy

11,847 posts

230 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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My X308 has been doing this too. But I put it down to the cold weather - round town it was fine, but at speed the engine temp would drop and so would the heater temp

a8hex

5,832 posts

249 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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TTwiggy said:
My X308 has been doing this too. But I put it down to the cold weather - round town it was fine, but at speed the engine temp would drop and so would the heater temp
That sounds like a thermostat to me.
I don't know what that involves on the V8 but on the AJ16 the part was quite cheap and it took about 10 mins with a spanner. Can't remember whether the anti-freeze wasn't the most expensive part of the job and getting it properly re-filled the trickery job. I think it was a question of filling then turning it over a bit and then re-filling.

I'm sure one of the guys who knows what they are doing will come along with the details soon.

Bacon_VII

39 posts

218 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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Sounds silly, but do your front fag lamps work and also the light in the fog lamp switches in the dash ?

I has a similar problem that was tracked to a dodgy alarm sounder.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...

Inverness

Original Poster:

556 posts

204 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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Bacon_VII said:
Sounds silly, but do your front fag lamps work and also the light in the fog lamp switches in the dash ?

I has a similar problem that was tracked to a dodgy alarm sounder.

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0...
WOW Yes it's the fog lamp switch which is not working but the fog lights themselves are plus the Jag in question is a XJR 100 as well!

Will check all this out over next couple of days and report back.

Tame Technician

2,467 posts

230 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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Sounds like your there now anyway, but......

XK/XJ V8 heater diag.

If the engine is not keeping warm in the cold weather, and subsiquently the heaters getting cold, its a thermostat.

If the engine is getting too hot and the heater doesnt get hot, its the mechanical water pump. (switch off get recovered or you'll cook it)

When the engine is getting the correct temperature and the heater doesnt work, check the power and ground at the heater pump/solonoid.

IF you have a good power and ground, then the pump/solonoid is faulty.

If you have a good earth and no power, wiring fault trace back to feed (most likely siren fuse related)

If you have power and no ground, bad earth.

MDT

738 posts

198 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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Fantastic my X308 had this same very same fault. Tracked it down to number 3 fuse and managed to rig up a new power feed for the pump. At this time of year it was a priority.

Every time I put in a 10A fuse it popped.

Any pointers as to how and where the siren might be found? I quite liked the fact it was not beeping when it was locked and or un-locked.

Inverness

Original Poster:

556 posts

204 months

Tuesday 26th January 2010
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MDT said:
Fantastic my X308 had this same very same fault. Tracked it down to number 3 fuse and managed to rig up a new power feed for the pump. At this time of year it was a priority.

Every time I put in a 10A fuse it popped.

Any pointers as to how and where the siren might be found? I quite liked the fact it was not beeping when it was locked and or un-locked.
Had a look at the car tonight and found a 10A fuse blown, so as MDT above where is the siren so it can be disconnected and the heater working again as it's got very cold again.

MDT

738 posts

198 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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As an interim solution I took a feed from the number 3 fuse and cut the positive wire to the pump and wired it in directly (with a 10A fuse inline) to get round the issue of cold feet or having to drive the SAAB.

Job done and all sorted now. Ok no fog lights, but having warm feet in Scotland this time of year out way fog lights.

a8hex

5,832 posts

249 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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MDT said:
As an interim solution I took a feed from the number 3 fuse and cut the positive wire to the pump and wired it in directly (with a 10A fuse inline) to get round the issue of cold feet or having to drive the SAAB.

Job done and all sorted now. Ok no fog lights, but having warm feet in Scotland this time of year out way fog lights.
I would have thought that at this time of year no heater rapidly meant no see out of windscreen

MDT

738 posts

198 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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a8hex said:
I would have thought that at this time of year no heater rapidly meant no see out of windscreen
ok, yes i have the heater on the windscreen and my feet but you get the point... heater out ways the fog lights. what with me not being a MAX POWER reader.

Bacon_VII

39 posts

218 months

Wednesday 27th January 2010
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The siren is located (from memory) near the passenger side of the radiator.

I managed to get at it (the connector) by just sliding myself under the car whilst plipping the key fob and listening for where the noice came from. If you look (from under the car) towards the bottom of the passenger side of the rad you'll see it. It has only one connector, which with fat fingers like me you can disconnect and the fuse stops blowing and fogs/heater start to work.

I plan in either replacing or fixing the siren, but this looks like a wheelarch lining out job to get at it properly, and frankly and can't be bothered in this weather.

Inverness

Original Poster:

556 posts

204 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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Now fixed, but with out the alarm sounder (it's now unpluged). How do I find out if it is the sounder that is at fault or the relay.

MDT

738 posts

198 months

Thursday 28th January 2010
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Also fixed. Big thank you for all the help. I just unpluged the alarm and job done.


Ecurie Ecosse

4,812 posts

244 months

Saturday 30th January 2010
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MDT said:
Also fixed. Big thank you for all the help. I just unpluged the alarm and job done.
Wouldn't happen in an Audi smile

Tame Technician

2,467 posts

230 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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VW/Audi Sirens give just as much trouble as the Ford/Jaguar ones.

Ecurie Ecosse

4,812 posts

244 months

Sunday 31st January 2010
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Tame Technician said:
VW/Audi Sirens give just as much trouble as the Ford/Jaguar ones.
I know - just having some fun at MDT's expense.