S-Type 2.7 twin turbo diesel. Anything i should know?
S-Type 2.7 twin turbo diesel. Anything i should know?
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Hedders

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Monday 1st February 2010
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My Dad is off to look at a 2006 S-Type as above at a little under £13k. Are there any issues with this model that make it one to stay away from, or any must have accessories etc? This one does have the Sat Nav atleast.

Cheers smile









Edited by Hedders on Monday 1st February 18:46

Simpo Two

92,065 posts

291 months

Monday 1st February 2010
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I'm looking at one of those too... it seems quite desirable.

At a whopping £13K I guess you'll be well short of the 105K miles double belt change... the other tip I got was to boot it from standstill to red line to see if the turbos exploded.

I test drove one last week and compared to my 2001 3.0SE it seemed to be roughly as fast, but the steering was much less pointy - possibly just that car (97K miles).

The older S-Types has two kinds of stereo, Basic (crap) and Premium. I don't know if the 2002+ models are the same, but if so, it's worth making sure it has Premium Sound. In my experience Jaguar audio is very specific, expensive and awkward to retrofit.

Edited by Simpo Two on Monday 1st February 20:48

Hedders

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Monday 1st February 2010
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Thanks for that, I hope they have traction control as my dad has a heavy footed approach to driving and no rear wheel drive experience hehe

I can see him putting this car into the scenery..

remould

52 posts

205 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Have a look on jaguarforum.co.uk,there's been a couple of cars with DPF related problems.

John D9395

383 posts

234 months

Tuesday 2nd February 2010
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Had a 2.7SE for 18 months, love it to bits. Apart from a couple of minor bits (failed rear sensor which the dealer fixed FOC, and at the moment I have a hand brake problem) the car has been trouble free and a 1st class motor.

diesel piston

287 posts

240 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Had my 2.7d over 4yrs, only 1 issue with DPF which was sorted with a software update and making sure the car has the opportunity to regenerate it.

Hedders

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Thursday 4th February 2010
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Cheers guys, It is not an unreliable deathtrap or anything then hehe

Ta.






tr7v8

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254 months

Thursday 4th February 2010
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Hedders said:
Cheers guys, It is not an unreliable deathtrap or anything then hehe

Ta.
I'm on my second one. Best car I've ever owned & in 35 years of driving the first one that I don't have the urge to upgrade to something else!

FWDRacer

3,565 posts

250 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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tr7v8 said:
Hedders said:
Cheers guys, It is not an unreliable deathtrap or anything then hehe

Ta.
I'm on my second one. Best car I've ever owned & in 35 years of driving the first one that I don't have the urge to upgrade to something else!
Not been out in 3.0D XF then... hehe

Simpo Two

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291 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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FWDRacer said:
Not been out in 3.0D XF then... hehe
The headlamp design on the XF is a dealbreaker for me (even if they wer in my price range) - the rest of the car might be perfect but to me it looks more like a Vauxhall than a Jaguar IMHO (sorry!).

tr7v8

7,594 posts

254 months

Friday 5th February 2010
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FWDRacer said:
tr7v8 said:
Hedders said:
Cheers guys, It is not an unreliable deathtrap or anything then hehe

Ta.
I'm on my second one. Best car I've ever owned & in 35 years of driving the first one that I don't have the urge to upgrade to something else!
Not been out in 3.0D XF then... hehe
Yup, had a 3.0 D XF S on loan just before Xmas wouldn't change TBH

Pros
Goes well esp. with Dynamic button pressed & in Sport mode.
Much better Bluetooth implementation
Nice noise

Cons
Horrible flat seats, would want XFR seats & maybe interior.
Not a big enough leap elsewhere to make it worthwhile to lash £35K on one s/h
Feels a bigger car to drive, really needs rear view camera.

Hedders

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273 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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OK, he bought the car and evrything seems fine apart from two points which may be related?

He has no disc for the Satnav, so i guess that means it won't work in europe but he should be fine without it here?

The buttons (touchscreen) on the satnav keep greying out, blocking their functionality, and then spring back to life, so you can use them and then grey out again! If you are patient you can just about use it hehe

Any idea's?

ETA: I just realised it might be a speed sensitive device so you can't use the sat nav when the car is moving? hehe


Edited by Hedders on Monday 8th February 19:28

Diderot

9,437 posts

218 months

Monday 8th February 2010
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Hedders said:
OK, he bought the car and evrything seems fine apart from two points which may be related?

He has no disc for the Satnav, so i guess that means it won't work in europe but he should be fine without it here?

The buttons (touchscreen) on the satnav keep greying out, blocking their functionality, and then spring back to life, so you can use them and then grey out again! If you are patient you can just about use it hehe

Any idea's?

ETA: I just realised it might be a speed sensitive device so you can't use the sat nav when the car is moving? hehe


Edited by Hedders on Monday 8th February 19:28
Yup, you've got it. HSE strikes again.

Simpo Two

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291 months

Tuesday 9th February 2010
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Hedders said:
He has no disc for the Satnav, so i guess that means it won't work in europe but he should be fine without it here?
I suspect it won't work at all - at least, in my 2001 car, the disk (CD-ROM) holds all the data. So somebody's swiped it to sell on eBay, unfortunately. You'll have to visit eBay and buy it back...

Hedders said:
The buttons (touchscreen) on the satnav keep greying out, blocking their functionality, and then spring back to life, so you can use them and then grey out again!
Yes - mine is the same, althogh it does at least explain why. One wonders how Tom Tom etc, presumably subject to the same laws, is not 'motion decativated' like this. So probably bks.

Hedders

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Tuesday 9th February 2010
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You are quite right Simpo, my dad gave me bad info. He does have the DVD, he just wants a newer one so he told me he had to buy a new DVD for it..




thomson

306 posts

229 months

Tuesday 9th February 2010
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Re: The graying out of the sat nav buttons.

This used to annoy the crap out of me when I bought my str last year. Turns out that you cannot input destinations into the sat nav when the car is in motion. (Although you can press some of the buttons). A touch nannying perhaps but does make a bit of sense i guess, nearly crashed my last car trying to input a destination!

tr7v8

7,594 posts

254 months

Tuesday 9th February 2010
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Mine doesn't grey out the buttons (early 07 car)!

Simpo Two

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291 months

Tuesday 9th February 2010
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Hedders said:
You are quite right Simpo, my dad gave me bad info. He does have the DVD, he just wants a newer one so he told me he had to buy a new DVD for it..
It's annoying that in-car satnav has to be so cumbersome, expensive and un-upgradable. Now they COULD make one that used data from a memory stick that you could take out and update from the internet...

Or perhaps they will quit, put a Tom-Tom-sized hole in the dash and get on with making cars!

Tame Technician

2,467 posts

230 months

Tuesday 9th February 2010
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Vauxhall offer Tomtom shaped hole in some of there cars.

as do Renault + Fiat, although I insist I am not promoting Crap French/Italian cars, just making the point.

http://www.tomtom.com/products/product.php?ID=812&...

But your premium (as in you pay a premium to own one) brands still insist in developing there own, which generaly require a firbe optic network to get info from the disc in the boot to the screen, cost at least £1500 and as you say, are obsollete before the car is out of waranty.