B7 RS4 Tyres: Switching from Pirelli - What are you running?
B7 RS4 Tyres: Switching from Pirelli - What are you running?
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iluvmercs

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7,541 posts

258 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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Good evening everyone.

It's time again to change my tyres so have been getting some quotes for replacing my Pirelli P-Zeros.

Upon phoning the main dealer, they can't match a local tyre fitters price for four P-Zeros, however they can match the price if I switch brands.
They have come back to me with the offer of a price match for either a set of Dunlop Sport Max GT or Continental Sport Contact 3 in the usual 255/35/19 size.

I'm not adversed to switching tyre brands, however my Audi has always had the Pirellis in the OEM size.

I am happy with the price offered and the standard size.
Do you have any experience of the brands mentioned above?
I am, however, looking for performance feedback of these two different brands vs. my current Pirellis. How do they compare in the dry & wet?
Can they stand up well to the odd track day and high speed driving? (Not too long after purchase, I will be taking the car to Germany and Switzerland, you see smile)

Any other advice would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks in advance,

Darren

UVB

557 posts

224 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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Hi Darren, been a while...must get over to a local meet soon. Can't help on any of those makes but my A6 uses the same size; I went from Michelin PS/2 to Vredesteins on that a while back and although the new ones have worn well, they aren't as sharp as the PS/2 in the corners. Knowing what you drive I'd be taking a keen look at the new Michelin Super Sport if it were me...that's meant to be an extremely good tyre; about £250 each online.

Little Lofty

3,911 posts

182 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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Lots of the lads on RS246 use the Vredsteins, they seem to offer a lot for their relative low cost.I had Pirelli's on my RS4, I would have gone for Michelin Super Sports if I had kept it longer.

Edited by Little Lofty on Friday 18th May 22:06

Defcon5

6,477 posts

222 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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Isnt there a Sport Contact 5 out now?

Mermaid

21,492 posts

202 months

Friday 18th May 2012
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Michelin Super Sports - do they make that size?

UVB

557 posts

224 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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Yep, 96 load index I think.

Guffy

2,372 posts

296 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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I've been running 275/30/19 Vreds for a few years now, can't fault them, especially for the price, just bought from Camskill, £180 ea.

jason s4

16,810 posts

201 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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I am running PS3 on the S4.

Seem to be wearing well and very stable in the wet.

brisel

981 posts

239 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Michelin PS3s here. Also heard good things about Vredesteins.

Pirellis are grippy but soft in my experience.

Some Gump

13,018 posts

217 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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CONTI SP3's here. Dead happy with them.

Have another car on pzero rosso, IMO those are ste - will swap to conti or michelin cups next.

KelWedge

1,287 posts

216 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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iluvmercs said:
Good evening everyone.

It's time again to change my tyres so have been getting some quotes for replacing my Pirelli P-Zeros.

Upon phoning the main dealer, they can't match a local tyre fitters price for four P-Zeros, however they can match the price if I switch brands.
They have come back to me with the offer of a price match for either a set of Dunlop Sport Max GT or Continental Sport Contact 3 in the usual 255/35/19 size.

I'm not adversed to switching tyre brands, however my Audi has always had the Pirellis in the OEM size.

I am happy with the price offered and the standard size.
Do you have any experience of the brands mentioned above?
I am, however, looking for performance feedback of these two different brands vs. my current Pirellis. How do they compare in the dry & wet?
Can they stand up well to the odd track day and high speed driving? (Not too long after purchase, I will be taking the car to Germany and Switzerland, you see smile)

Any other advice would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks in advance,

Darren
Hi Darren

With that choice and knowing what(How) you drive, The Perelli will be better than Continental or Dunlop, Remember them 4 black bits in the corners are what stop you from not being here!!
Cant comment on Vredsteins on your car, but have had them on my blue car and they were as good as Pirelli which I have been running for a time now, but they did start to go off with less grip about 1000 miles before Pirelli do, Pirelli on mine manage 4000 miles and grip to nearly the end.
The other thing is make sure you go high enough up the speed rating on the tyres W minimum or Z

Dr G

15,991 posts

273 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Dunlops (Sport Maxx) on our track car look to be having a much harder time of it than the Pirellis did; hard to describe but the rubber is peeling and I doubt they're long for this world. Towards the end of its last outing the car got very squirrely at the back end too.

Contis seriously impressed me and as above, a lot of customers have told me how pleased they've been with the Vredesteins. Avon (zz5) and Hankook (Ventus) have had very positive reviews lately (Evo) if you're looking for something a little lower priced.

iluvmercs

Original Poster:

7,541 posts

258 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Many thanks for the replies, everyone smile

Michelin SS have been mentioned, as have have Vredesteins. Aren't these those barely legal track-bias tyres? If so, I use the car in all weathers, so I'm looking for a tyre which will cope well with wet weather driving.
My P-Zeros have give me the confidence to push on in damp and wet conditions smile

Going by what has been said so far, tyre choice seems very personal to the driver, so I perhaps a "try it and see" approach may be worth while? drivingsmile

Thanks again, thus far thumbup

Darren

blueg33

46,840 posts

255 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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My A6 runs the Vreds in that size, they are miles better than the OEM Pirelli's, and better than the Dunlops it had before. I am on the second set of Vreds.

Pirellis went off much sooner and lasted a good 5k fewer miles. Pirellis slightly better in the dry, vreds much better the rest of the time. Vreds take about 100 miles to bed in, they are very slippery for the first 50-100 miles.



Edited by blueg33 on Monday 21st May 19:53

graeme4130

3,955 posts

212 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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I'm running pzero rossos on my RS4, but I'll be changing them to Vreds next time around. Drove a friends RS4 on Vreds and they seemed 98% of what the Pirrelis do at the upper limits, but are at 60% of the price
I don't use the car on the track, so that last 2% is largely irrelevant for my driving style

iluvmercs

Original Poster:

7,541 posts

258 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Many further thanks for the added replies smile

At the risk of sounding a little dim, can I ask for the precise model of these Vredesteins that have been widely recommended in this thread, please?

Darren

blueg33

46,840 posts

255 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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iluvmercs said:
Many further thanks for the added replies smile

At the risk of sounding a little dim, can I ask for the precise model of these Vredesteins that have been widely recommended in this thread, please?

Darren
Vredstein Ultrac Sessanta HTH

RobbyJ

1,824 posts

253 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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I use FK452's and have done for ages, great all round tyre, the only down side is slightly elevated road noise.

http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?details=Orde...

£144 each (in May)

8bit

5,582 posts

186 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Not an RS4 (yet) but I've got the Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas on my Leon Cupra R. They're not a track tyre as such, they're a road tyre but a very good one IMHO. I'm on my second set now, wet and dry grip is great, feedback is very good, road noise is low. I got about 17k out of my first set (fronts), mostly fairly spirited driving. I'd use these again on pretty much anything they come in the correct fitment for. Tread pattern is funky too smile

AlanW

302 posts

269 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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changed from Pirelli to Conti's & very happy - they do everything the Pirelli does at £40 less per corner