R8 - would you... opinions
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Hi,
Saw a beautiful car today at a UK independent garage of good reputation (car is SOR though so uninspected)
2007 manual R8 V8, 32,000 miles
It has 7 previous owners - car is only 6 years old
It's first service was after about 2.5 years at 16,000 miles then annual after that
Whilst this doesn't really bother me that much the theory is that anyone not looking after it properly may have thrashed it from cold / abused it in other ways
The front discs are lipped, pads about 4-5mm, Pirellis all round but 65% worn
Car is £42,000 as a trade sale which is cheap for a UK car
I could get it inspected by a good local indi for £150
Thoughts please
Saw a beautiful car today at a UK independent garage of good reputation (car is SOR though so uninspected)
2007 manual R8 V8, 32,000 miles
It has 7 previous owners - car is only 6 years old
It's first service was after about 2.5 years at 16,000 miles then annual after that
Whilst this doesn't really bother me that much the theory is that anyone not looking after it properly may have thrashed it from cold / abused it in other ways
The front discs are lipped, pads about 4-5mm, Pirellis all round but 65% worn
Car is £42,000 as a trade sale which is cheap for a UK car
I could get it inspected by a good local indi for £150
Thoughts please
Depends on condition/how it drives/what you plan to do with it.
Assuming it doesn't look/drive like a dog anyway, if you're looking to move it on/make a profit after the summer I'd avoid due to number of owners.
The lack of regular servicing does indeed suggest less than careful ownership - it may have been part of one of those car clubs and oil changed in house, but I wouldn't want to take the risk it hasn't been abused if they couldn't be bothered to get a stamp in the book or keep any evidence of it being done outside the dealer network.
For resale on something like this a cast iron history would be essential for me as a private buyer so unless I could afford to take a punt or planned to keep it for years and not worry about it I'd rather find one that ticked boxes in the service book tbh
Assuming it doesn't look/drive like a dog anyway, if you're looking to move it on/make a profit after the summer I'd avoid due to number of owners.
The lack of regular servicing does indeed suggest less than careful ownership - it may have been part of one of those car clubs and oil changed in house, but I wouldn't want to take the risk it hasn't been abused if they couldn't be bothered to get a stamp in the book or keep any evidence of it being done outside the dealer network.
For resale on something like this a cast iron history would be essential for me as a private buyer so unless I could afford to take a punt or planned to keep it for years and not worry about it I'd rather find one that ticked boxes in the service book tbh
I suspect most potential buyers would consider 2.5 years as a bit like missing the 1,000 mile run in service on a BMW M back in the day. Longlife and R/S/RS models are not good mates at the best of times. That's a long time for the same oil that it left the factory with on a fresh engine build to still be in there, never mind the fact it's done quite a lot of miles in that time. Maybe understandable if it only did 5k in that time
I think this confirms the 'cheap for a reason' adage. I wish they'd been upfront with me about the 7 owners as it's a significant aspect of the car that would put a lot of people off, when I found out I did rapidly lose enthusiasm. I'm a big believer in value but value is not always found in a low purchase price... thanks for the advice all think I'll pass on this one...
Im assuming its not this one because its mileage is higher
http://www.911virgin.com/porscheforsale/680/AudiR8...
But 911Virgin are about as good as you can get if you want a Porsche other than a main dealer. Most likely taken as Part Ex but they will look after you not matter what marque you buy off them.
http://www.911virgin.com/porscheforsale/680/AudiR8...
But 911Virgin are about as good as you can get if you want a Porsche other than a main dealer. Most likely taken as Part Ex but they will look after you not matter what marque you buy off them.
wongthecorrupter said:
Save your money just spanked one in my Tuscan, slow boring audi
Ok then because your canoe 'supposedly' spanked an r8 he shouldnt buy one...yeah save your money and buy a car from non existent company and cross your fingers every morning before you turn your key.icebite78 said:
wongthecorrupter said:
Save your money just spanked one in my Tuscan, slow boring audi
Ok then because your canoe 'supposedly' spanked an r8 he shouldnt buy one...yeah save your money and buy a car from non existent company and cross your fingers every morning before you turn your key.I'd never call the R8 slow or boring, nor would I do the TVR the injustice icebite just did. I've been thinking about a more grown up toy to replace the Cerbera (or maybe add another nice car to the garage) and the R8 is up there on my list.
In either car you'd have to be driving like a madman (or on a track) to 'spank' the other and in real life day to day driving I bet you'd never tell the difference.
So back to OP - if a keeper as others have said, wouldn't let number of owners worry too much, but if for a bit of an itch to scratch it might make it harder to sell.
icebite78 said:
Ok then because your canoe 'supposedly' spanked an r8 he shouldnt buy one...yeah save your money and buy a car from non existent company and cross your fingers every morning before you turn your key.
Shocking, I have had 3 tvr's and they have all been superb, they start and everythingjakesmith said:
Thanks for the advice... personally I wouldn't touch a TVR, if I wanted grunt I'd go for an XKR or 997tt. I want supercar looks & soundtrack + reliability. Maseratti GT is the other one I'd consider...
I wasn't going to get involved in slanging, but an XKR or 997TT would come close to a TVR for grunt, supercar looks and soundtrack is ticked by the TVR, reliability? Well, although no supercar my Chimaera has cost me £6.95 in non servicing repairs in 13 years, the Cerbera did cost me £245 about 3 years ago. Not many supercars would beat that.You say you want reliability and then next mention you'd want a Maserati - good luck with that!
Seriously though, don't write off the TVR until you've tried it - I mean owning. I don't know, you might have, just saying.
Although of course being very rare and hand built they won't have tight build quality and perceived reliability of a mass produced sports car the TVR is still cracking value, my lowly Chimaera will still keep pace with all but the fastest newer cars, the Cerbera will just about ,spank, (I think the word was) everything out there.
But after having a good look round a new R8 V10 last week I am sorely tempted to grow up a little bit, sacrifice the speed and rawness for a little plushness and solid switchgear.
I'm sure TVRs are very quick in a straight line but that isn't what I'm after or I wouldn't be looking at an R8, I want a lurury car with loads of gadgets too to enjoy every day on the commute
Masser GT is a well sorted car
No offence but TVR is not up there in terms of looks or cachet in my opinion, which is the one that counts in this matter
Masser GT is a well sorted car
No offence but TVR is not up there in terms of looks or cachet in my opinion, which is the one that counts in this matter
jakesmith said:
No offence but TVR is not up there in terms of looks or cachet in my opinion, which is the one that counts in this matter
None taken, be boring if we all liked the same thing.To be fair I looked at the R8 because the idea of wafting around relatively quickly without having to think too much is quite appealing at times. Kind of like driving a normal Audi but quicker.
In the TVR, especially the Cerbera and Tuscan you need to be on your game pretty much the whole time, and sometimes you just don't want that all involving experience
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