How long is it OK to wait for a new car?
How long is it OK to wait for a new car?
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FamousAfroJay

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78 posts

165 months

Saturday 16th November 2013
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I ordered my Octavia vRS on the 4th of September and was told to expect delivery in 8-10 weeks. I went into the dealer as communication hasn't been the best to be told the the build date has been bouncing around and it is currently settled on the 2nd week of December and depending on delivery scheduled I should expect delivery the 2nd week of January. Although, the date is not 'locked in' and could change again.

The point of my post, would I be right to expect some sort of extra discount or good will gesture on the car as I have to spend more money on my current car to make sure it soldiers on until mid January or should I just chalk this up to experience?

Any sensible suggestions welcome smile

cuprabob

19,758 posts

244 months

Saturday 16th November 2013
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I had a wait of 4 months for my current Rocco and 7 months for my MK5 R32 before it. Dadly it's just the way it is with VAG but it does no harm to try and negotiate something though.

Also, quoted leadtimes are not from when you place the order but from when the factory avvept the order. With some models dealers only get so many build slots a month based on their overall sales performance.

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239 posts

175 months

Sunday 17th November 2013
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When the mk2 octavia scout come out there was a 9 month lead time that iirc went as far as a 12 month lead time.

toerag

758 posts

162 months

New POD

3,851 posts

180 months

Sunday 17th November 2013
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It's not like it's a fking Morgan is it ? Have they not heard of just in time manufacture ?

Why when you purchased it, didn't you make it a condition of sale that it was delivered within 10 weeks? With say free loan of a curtesy car until it was delivered ? When they refuse go elsewhere.

I can't believe it. Really I can't.

DocArbathnot

29,041 posts

213 months

Sunday 17th November 2013
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VAG are hpeless with this. The dealers are kept in the dark and VAG will not accept any responsibility. If you need to spend money on your car i.e. service or repairs etc why not ask the dealer if they can do them?

va1o

16,117 posts

237 months

Sunday 17th November 2013
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This has been standard with VAG for the past 5 years (or maybe even longer). 6-8 month wait times on popular models aren't unheard of. They generally sell a lot of cars and have to be careful not to oversupply the market unlike Ford and Vauxhall who are happy to pile up stock.

FamousAfroJay

Original Poster:

78 posts

165 months

Sunday 17th November 2013
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I didn't make it a condition as it's my first new car and I believed the dealer when he said 10 weeks. My mistake.

My current 150k mk5 Golf needs tyres and the clutch/flywheel are making some very interesting noises.
We have gone from 2 cars, sold our other car to cover the deposit then the dealer was gonna take this one off our hands when the new one turns up.
Fingers crossed it will last another 2 months but if it does let go im stuffed.

I'll go back in and ask, the reason I choose a new car is so I dont have these worries.
Although, a 500 quid scooby could be good fun it the golf does go bang.

DocArbathnot

29,041 posts

213 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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Explain your dilema and ask (due to the delay) if they will take your Golf early and loan you a courtesy car.

They may or may not be cooperative, but they will want good customer satisfaction scores on the inevitable survey and may propose a compromise. Remember if you don't ask you won't get, it won't be the 1st time they have had this issue.

If VAG have done well enough to hit annual (UK) targets, they often delay cars until the new year. No regard for the customer, finance offers due to expire at year end, dealer or salesman who may or may not have hit targets and need the extra couple of units.

(I'm so pleased I no longer work for a VAG dealer)

Edited by DocArbathnot on Monday 18th November 08:28

FamousAfroJay

Original Poster:

78 posts

165 months

Monday 18th November 2013
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DocArbathnot said:
Explain your dilema and ask (due to the delay) if they will take your Golf early and loan you a courtesy car.

They may or may not be cooperative, but they will want good customer satisfaction scores on the inevitable survey and may propose a compromise. Remember if you don't ask you won't get, it won't be the 1st time they have had this issue.

If VAG have done well enough to hit annual (UK) targets, they often delay cars until the new year. No regard for the customer, finance offers due to expire at year end, dealer or salesman who may or may not have hit targets and need the extra couple of units.

(I'm so pleased I no longer work for a VAG dealer)

Edited by DocArbathnot on Monday 18th November 08:28
Blimey! I didnt know that, I'll ask when I'm back the area on Wednesday and seewhat they say.

DJP

1,201 posts

209 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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New POD said:
It's not like it's a fking Morgan is it ? Have they not heard of just in time manufacture ?

Why when you purchased it, didn't you make it a condition of sale that it was delivered within 10 weeks? With say free loan of a curtesy car until it was delivered ? When they refuse go elsewhere.

I can't believe it. Really I can't.
Exactly.

It's a Skoda FFS.

I'd tell 'em to poke it and buy something else.

Kell

1,708 posts

238 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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The only new car we ordered (privately) was our TT back in 2002. We ordered it in September 2001, but it took so long to arrive that the standard spec changed in the meantime. We were a bit naiive and didn't really push it, especially as we'd ordered it from a German dealer and didn't really know where we stood.

On the flipside, the last company car we had before opting out and going private was a Golf GTi when the MKIV first launched. At that time VW had a 1.8 non-turbo and a 1.8 turbo. We ordered the turbo version and they put the order in as a non-turbo. In that instance, they let us keep the 'wrong' car for 6 months as it was their mistake. In the meantime, they put the right order through and we eventually got our GTi T - but almost a year after ordering.

AGK

1,605 posts

185 months

Tuesday 19th November 2013
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Pretty standard.

I ordered my A3 in Feb and after many delays it arrived a week before Christmas.

My mate ordered an A3 in the exact same spec, from the same salesman at the same dealers in April and it arrived in September - 3 months before mines despite being ordered after.

Robbydun

1 posts

94 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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I ordered a new series 2 BMW in July 18 still waiting, dealer tells me it might arrive after the 7January 19

The_Doc

6,291 posts

250 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Waited 8 months for my Up! GTi The VW tracking app and www.vw.co.uk order tracking are hopelessly late and/or wrong.

there are people who ordered on day 1, and waited 9 months. Later orders sometimes got delivered earlier.

2000miles in, it's an absolute cracker !

mids

1,620 posts

288 months

Wednesday 19th December 2018
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10 months for my Golf GTE (ordered Nov 17, arrived Sept 18) which was double the time I was told it would take when I ordered (paperwork said March).

and yeah, the tracker didn't work well e.g. it told me the car had arrived at the port, then a week later it was back in the factory. I think the WLTP backlog was playing havoc. At least that's what I was told by my dealer who seemed just as frustrated as I was.

To be fair, VW looked after me well. They gave me a Golf GTD mobex in May so I had free motoring for 4 months (including their insurance) which took the sting out of the delay.