RS4 (B7) or RS6 (C6)
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jock mcsporran

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5,128 posts

304 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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Looking at getting out of the Exige and into a fast Audi as my mileage has plummeted as family duties take over and less time to use the Exige.

Main use would be weekend swimming/rugby clubs and some family trips but also to do the annual Le Mans jaunt and some trips to the Highlands or Europe.

Thought about an S4/6 but if I'm honest, it would have to be an RS.

Started looking at RS4's in the low 20's but noticed that there's a number of Approved Used RS6's in the 30k range with about 60k miles which doesn't seem too bad for the amount of car you get.

Anybody had both? Anything to look out for on the 6 (I've done plenty of research on the issues for the 4). Manual v Auto? How is the paddle shift?
The 6 seems to be pretty reliable from what I see, only issues seem to be a potential engine out oil leak which suggests the DRC issues from the C5 are sorted?

The only thing that is annoying is the lack of towbar approval. Would like one to put a towbar mouunted bike rack but might just have to use the wife's car for that.

Any info would be great as I might go look at 1 or 2 that are nearby in the next couple of days.

Cheers

Terminator X

20,966 posts

235 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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RS6 is a monster V10 isn't it? No brainer imho if you can afford it. FYI a de-restricted RS6 had the fastest top speed at a 30-130 event I went to a few years ago, 195mph at end of runway GPS verified eek

TX.

glm1977

200 posts

192 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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RS4 Is much more dynamic to drive whereas the RS6 is a brilliant tourer with a simply awesome engine.

Best bet is to go over to RS246.com for more info and get more insight into owning both types.... Good bunch of guys who'll be happy to give pointers etc for when you go looking at examples

graeme4130

3,955 posts

212 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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glm1977 said:
RS4 Is much more dynamic to drive whereas the RS6 is a brilliant tourer with a simply awesome engine.

Best bet is to go over to RS246.com for more info and get more insight into owning both types.... Good bunch of guys who'll be happy to give pointers etc for when you go looking at examples
+1, they're very different cars
B7 RS4 wouldn't touuch a c6 RS6 on a motorway, but give it a twisty road and the tables would turn
Loads of owners on rs246.com

Murph7355

42,050 posts

287 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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graeme4130 said:
+1, they're very different cars
B7 RS4 wouldn't touuch a c6 RS6 on a motorway, but give it a twisty road and the tables would turn
Loads of owners on rs246.com
Agree.

One other point...you mention swimming/rugby clubs.

If your kids are big/have big friends and lots of kit, the RS4 may be too small...

Dr G

16,004 posts

273 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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OK, mega short versions, but:

B7 RS4 is a sports car in a smart suit.

C6 RS6 is a heavyweight boxer that's been in a teleporter accident with a sofa.

The latter has proved excellent so far in terms of reliability and durability, even when tuned. They excel at big roads and big speeds, whilst they're not unwieldy on smaller roads they can only be pushed hard (and really feel fast) when you have a LOT of space to use and little regard for rules and regulations. For crossing continents four up and overtaking everything all year round there are no superior cars.

The B7 RS4 is probably the best all round sporting estate car ever built and one of the best saloons. They're compact, lively and have a genuinely exciting drive train. They are high maintenance cars and you would buy one of these because you want one. The discussion needs to end here because 'objectively' speaking there are better cars for the money. Subjectively there are not. Be happy that it's a special car, the very last of its breed and right up there with the best Audis.

Everything else about each you can already read on this forum smile

Hol

9,316 posts

231 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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For your budget, I would go for. a B7 RS4, or for the same budget one of the last B8 S4 Manuals with a remap and pulleys.

Both will be over 420bhp, the RS4 will look better and the S4 will be newer and more discreet.


That's where my brain took me, this time last year.

jock mcsporran

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5,128 posts

304 months

Monday 8th December 2014
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Cheers all. I've been reading through RS246 recently to get up to speed.

Had a drive of an RS6 today. Seemed big having arrived in the Exige but not that bad. Very comfy, very fast, lots of toys. I even think the wife would drive it.
Reviewing my mileage over the last couple of years sees only about 15-20% max is actually 'driving' miles. The rest is motorway/cross-country/cross-continent.

At the moment I'm erring towards RS6 rather than RS4 although it would be one within the Approved network so that it would come with a warranty just in case. While the RS4 would no doubt be a 'better' drive for the 20% of the time that I wanted to drive I'm thinking it may have too many compromises for the other 80% of the time (and I can always hire a Cayman for £100/day if needed for an odd weekend).

Is there anywhere I can download a service schedule to see what should be done and when? I've searched all over and can't seem to find anything.

RobbyJ

1,824 posts

253 months

Tuesday 9th December 2014
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I had to make the same choice, I used to have a B7 S4, then a Discovery (for my tribe of kids). My decision then was between a B8 S4 with some decent mods up to 480bhp or the C6 RS6. After speaking to MRC they quickly talked me into the RS6 and now it's 700bhp I haven't regretted it for a second. It's so quick in a straight line and very good fun on sweeping A roads. On B roads you feel the bulk and it's less fun than an RS4 but on average I don't think it would be any slower as it's so damn fast in a straight line between the bends. Mine now has 80,000 miles and has been very reliable touch wood. I searched long and hard to find one with ceramics and they are awesome, it's nice to have such amazing stopping power when pressing on in such a heavy car.

Obviously I'm biased, but get the RS6 smile

ChrisRS6

736 posts

214 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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RS6 then a visit to MRC!!

Had mine for nearly three years, remapped to 722bhp and stupid torque.

Stupid fast but docile when you want tit to be.

Bin OEM exhaust though it's crap!

Dr G

16,004 posts

273 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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jock mcsporran said:
Is there anywhere I can download a service schedule to see what should be done and when? I've searched all over and can't seem to find anything.
In theory they'll go up to 20 between oil and don't need plugs until 60.

I personally would do the oil every 10 regardless of use and the plugs every 40 (if not sooner for low mileage use).

Things like gearbox and diff 'never' need oil but again, if it's a keeper I'd be tempted to carry out some preventative maintenance and get fresh oil in them.

jock mcsporran

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5,128 posts

304 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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Cheers, was there any particularly big services to watch out for? Still can't find a service schedule online to see whats needed and when.

Plugs? Fluids? Belts?

sixspeed

2,062 posts

303 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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I am selling my Sepang RS6 shortly (did advertise it briefly but waiting until after Christmas now as decided I'd get a bit more use out of it), so ping me if you are interested.

Has all the MRC treatment and full Audi history with the warranty. Just had the transmission serviced by ZF in Dortmund in October too! Think there is a single photo in my profile.


jock mcsporran

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5,128 posts

304 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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sixspeed said:
I am selling my Sepang RS6 shortly (did advertise it briefly but waiting until after Christmas now as decided I'd get a bit more use out of it), so ping me if you are interested.

Has all the MRC treatment and full Audi history with the warranty. Just had the transmission serviced by ZF in Dortmund in October too! Think there is a single photo in my profile.
Seen the threads and in the colour I prefer but it's an Avant I'm after (dog/kids bikes/etc)

sixspeed

2,062 posts

303 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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jock mcsporran said:
Seen the threads and in the colour I prefer but it's an Avant I'm after (dog/kids bikes/etc)
Ahh good, yes the Avant does make for a fantastic all-rounder! smile


Dr G

16,004 posts

273 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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jock mcsporran said:
Cheers, was there any particularly big services to watch out for? Still can't find a service schedule online to see whats needed and when.

Plugs? Fluids? Belts?
Plugs and fluids see above, there is no timing belt.

jock mcsporran

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5,128 posts

304 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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Dr G said:
Plugs and fluids see above, there is no timing belt.
Missed the plugs part, cheers.

SR06

749 posts

217 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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RS4 - In my personal opinion, the B7 RS4 isnt as good as the VAG world made it out to be. Dynamically its okay, nothing startling to be honest and the DRC and "carbon" buildup issues are enough for me to say bye bye to Quattro GmbH for a while.

RS6 - The RS6 was sculpted out of a block of solid lard and lives on a diet of Greggs. Its not the most involving to drive and I suspect the majority of people crave the the thought of ownership rather than the Joy of Driving. The term often used with this car is "great allrounder", to me I read doesnt excel at anything.

S4T - A better proposition than either of the above.