1.4tsi would you?
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jakesmith

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9,497 posts

202 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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Looking at a golf 1.4 tsi 170.
Would you?
It's a 2006 for about 5k with under 50k miles.
I know there have been engine failures but is it due to people parking in gear and the timing jumping a tooth ie avoidable. Or is it more random.
And could you say if it was a bad batch with the failures, that it would have happened by now?

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kent_phil

329 posts

274 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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Used to have what I think was the 140bhp version in a Touran circa 2007 - felt very odd to drive as it felt like two torque curves overlapping as the supercharger ramped down and the turbo ramped up.

No reliability issues with the car over a two year period from new but did not like the drive at all.

Drive Blind

5,798 posts

208 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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jakesmith said:
Looking at a golf 1.4 tsi 170.

I know there have been engine failures but is it due to people parking in gear and the timing jumping a tooth ie avoidable
parking in gear causes the timing belt to jump a tooth? confused

cbgt3

253 posts

152 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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Had a 1.4 TSi Scirocco, 160 bhp, great car to drive but at 34k it had to have all new timing chain, tensioners, pulleys and waterpump. It rattled like hell on start up where the tensioners lost all tension over night and the chain was slack, lucky it didn't jump a tooth on start up.
Had the latest update tensioners fitted and it still rattled on occasions on start up but nowhere near as bad as before.

jakesmith

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Friday 13th February 2015
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Drive Blind said:
parking in gear causes the timing belt to jump a tooth? confused
Apparently parking in gear on a hill can stretch the chain, then it can jump on startup. Sounds terrifying TBH & I already live with the risk of engine failure on my 997. However I'm wondering if the failures are down to useage / poor servicing / a bad batch of engines / random

cbgt3

253 posts

152 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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Its well versed on other forums if you google it that the TSi engines suffered badly with tensioner problems, there are technical bulletins at VW regarding upgraded tensioners for these engines.
VW did all of mine under warranty as I bought it from a main dealer.

jakesmith

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202 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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I did look it up but there it's nowhere near as well covered as say the Porsche IMS issue - I didn't see anything about the causes or prevention, more sporadic posts from people who have suffered but you do see that for any make & model of car
Am assuming they don't do campaigns / updates on non dealership cars then?

towser

1,430 posts

242 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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I had an 08 registered 1.4TSI 170 for 3 years.

In terms of reliability I never had an issue.

It says 170bhp on the tin, but it never really felt like that - always felt underpowered to me.

MPG was kicking about low 40s for a mix of motorway and city driving.

va1o

16,118 posts

238 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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Its definitely a gamble, could be a decent buy but could also prove expensive to run. Timing chains are very prone to failure on these.

I'd be tempted to go for it but budget for a warranty at the same time.

As always though a GTI would be a better bet if you can find a tidy one for that money (will have more miles)

cbgt3

253 posts

152 months

Friday 13th February 2015
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jakesmith said:
I did look it up but there it's nowhere near as well covered as say the Porsche IMS issue - I didn't see anything about the causes or prevention, more sporadic posts from people who have suffered but you do see that for any make & model of car
Am assuming they don't do campaigns / updates on non dealership cars then?
Not sure on non dealer cars tbh, I was just lucky that I did buy mine from the dealer it turns out. There was quite a bit about it on scirocco central forum when I had the trouble with mine.

dtr

71 posts

148 months

Saturday 14th February 2015
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'0.6 small engine for £5k is too much IMHO.

The golf with 2.0 TDI would really fly. 1.9 TDI is less refined but bullet proof. If there is one thing that lived up to the hype in my car it is this engine. Petrol will feel pretty slow at lower revs. I drove 1.2TSI (the even worse version) and it felt mad is a strange way. It feels pretty dead or hopeless from the start and then suddenly bursts from 20 to 35mph. You really have to watch out it doesn't do that near speed camera. By 65mph it had nothing left. I expect 1.4 will be fine at 70, but really I'd pick 1.8 or 2.0 turbo petrol engine if you need petrol.