Anyone driven an A4 avant 2.0 TFSI quattro v 3.0 Diesel

[phib]

Hi All, Looking to change MRS Phib's car, went to look at a 2.0 diesel (177bhp) Quattro but it was really slugish, so the next two choices are the 2.0 TFSI think its 211bhp and the 3.0 TDI Quattro both Auto's.

Both C. 2010 / 2011
Any experiences / advice very welcome


Thanks

Phib

[jakesmith]

I'd avoid that petrol engine it's known to score bores & need replacement @ £10,000

[Cupramax]

Says the Porsche owner ironic post

[jakesmith]

I think owning a porsche qualifies me well to know what it's like to live under the cloud of possible engine failure, but for my model I didnt have an alternative choice and it is lovely to drive. For an a4 avant, where there are several other options, why take a chance on an engine when the 3.0tdi is such a gem anyway.

[Gio G]

Owned an A4 saloon with the 2.0tFSI engine for around 3 years. Mine was slightly tweaked, as I had come from an A6 3.0 TFSI, so wanted similar performance. It was a perfect family car and never missed a beat, never any issues - quattro is a must!

Also owned a 3.0 diesel in an A5, which was nice, plenty of torque and go, however by that stage, got fed up with diesels and wanted petrol.

I suppose it depends what you are using it for and sort of daily journeys you are doing.

G

[AudiSport]

I owned a 2005 A4 2.0T Quattro for 4-years and it never put a foot wrong. In fact not only did it cost very little to run, I sold it for only £500 less than I paid for it. Crazy!

I had mine remapped by Revo and the performance was great. Mpg is around 26 urban and 36 mixed. I saw 39/40 on a run.

I would keep your options open and decide on the best one available.

[phib]

Thanks guys, petrol ones seem a couple of thousand cheaper at the moment.

probably 30% local roads 70% motorway

I will keep options open as I really want a sunroof !!

Thanks

Phib

[Dr G]

Sunroof is the hard bit there; you might have to be a bit flexible on other things if that's a must have.

OK, the 3.0 TDI - feels like it was designed to move a large boat or perhaps a tank. The torque is really impressive and it's so smooth and quiet. Reliability is excellent. Fast in a continent crushing sort of a way rather than a B-road blaster. You can make excellent, easy progress and the car will never feel flustered but I can't say it's a car you'd ever drive hard just for the hell of it.

The 2.0T from 08-11 has had oil consumption issues. It's a great engine but verify that it isn't a drinker before committing. Audi are currently (very quietly) putting their hands in their pockets for this one. Nice and linear, good torque all the way through and whilst not quite as quick as the diesel it doesn't mind being revved out.

Both engines are very tunable.

[phib]

Thanks, the sunroof is a must, so as you say I will have to be flexible on the other bits and bobs.

Have other cars to have fun with if I want to go out for a blast so the diesel sounds like the best solution

Many thsnks

Phib

[Dr G]

Yup; that would be my choice.

Take care of it and they'll do an easy 250k miles. Really tough engine.

[g7jhp]

Dr G said:

The 2.0T from 08-11 has had oil consumption issues. It's a great engine but verify that it isn't a drinker before committing. Audi are currently (very quietly) putting their hands in their pockets for this one. Nice and linear, good torque all the way through and whilst not quite as quick as the diesel it doesn't mind being revved out.

So does the B7 A4 Avant with 2.0 TFSI (200PS/197bhp) have issues?

[Maracus]

The only issue I had in our 2.0T Q was a coil pack failing. This was over 3 years and 30k. It had 85k on it when it went around 3 years ago.

Ours was an auto and averaged mid 20s over it's time with us.

[hman]

try to get the 220 bhp TFSI Quattro - I had an 06 from new to 80,000 and I thought it was great. It was thrashed from start up to switch off every day and the only thing which played up was an electrical plug on the fuel pressure sender.

Brilliant car and quick.

[ManOpener]

g7jhp said:

Dr G said:

The 2.0T from 08-11 has had oil consumption issues. It's a great engine but verify that it isn't a drinker before committing. Audi are currently (very quietly) putting their hands in their pockets for this one. Nice and linear, good torque all the way through and whilst not quite as quick as the diesel it doesn't mind being revved out.

So does the B7 A4 Avant with 2.0 TFSI (200PS/197bhp) have issues?

Coil packs, though less of an issue if they've been subject to the "product enhancement" (basically a recall in anyone else's terms).
Diverter valve- if it sounds like it's got a boost leak it will probably be that. Mega cheap fix (£30 for the Revision G diaphragm type, £40 for the Revision D piston, I'm not going to start an argument by making a claim regarding better. Half an hour's labour for either).
PCV- wandering idle and low-rev hesitation. Also mega cheap fix (£35 including gasket, half an hour's labour)
HPFP cam lobe and follower wear- cam follower should be inspected every service, particular attention paid to remapped cars. Wear is readily visible on inspection. Not expensive to replace the follower (£40-odd for the part and half an hour's labour). More expensive to replace the cam, but they fail much less frequently- generally only due to a worn follower or in very early cars with the Type A camshaft (almost solely AXX engine code A3s and very early GTIs). This is an important one as a complete failure will destroy the fuel pump and quite possibly the engine.

Make sure it's had the belt changes done (60k/4 years AFAIK)


Aside from the HPFP there's nothing that really goes wrong with them that's more than a mild annoyance.

Edited by ManOpener on Thursday 9th April 13:25

[MancDan]

I currently have a B8 2009 A4 Avant 2.0 TFSi Quattro with the Auto S-tronic box, and it is a great car, or it was until the timing chain tensioner went on it 2 weeks ago. Repair bill is £1750 as it bent the inlet valves too. (from a local independent garage, not Audi)
Mine also had the oil consumption issue, but was fixed and paid for by Audi in November 2013.

Currently has 96k miles and also has a Revo Stage 1 re-map, which certainly gives it some extra beans when pressing the go pedal.
MPG for me is pants as I mainly do town driving. I average around 20-22mpg around town but can get 35mpg on a decent motorway run, I would imagine manual to be slightly better though.

I am hoping once the timing issue from above is fully rectified, then it will be a great car once more. It better had be otherwise it's going to be sold and I'm getting a B7 again!

[MancDan]

Forgot to add mine is the 211bhp version (although now has more with the Revo & BMC Panel Filter )