The new Audi RS5 to have 500bhp?!
The new Audi RS5 to have 500bhp?!
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Lostprophet

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Wednesday 1st June 2016
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MrBarry123

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Wednesday 1st June 2016
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From how previous performance Audi models have compared to performance BMW models, I'm not sure BMW will be worried.

Terminator X

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234 months

Thursday 2nd June 2016
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No V8 though, such a shame.

TX.

djc206

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Thursday 2nd June 2016
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MrBarry123 said:
From how previous performance Audi models have compared to performance BMW models, I'm not sure BMW will be worried.
Well they've not built anything remotely up to the RS6/7 so if the new RS4 and RS5 are as good they could make very tough competition for the M3/M4.

The new C63 coupe is the real threat to the RS5 for me, beautiful car, still a V8, bloody quick and an exhaust note that truly embarrasses the lacklustre attempts of BMW's M division.

Gio G

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239 months

Thursday 2nd June 2016
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Lighter and with more power, cannot be a bad thing.. I test drove a very nice used RS5 a few weeks back, only on the off chance the local dealer could do a deal on my current A5... I absolutely loved it and the V8 was no doubt the reason for this joy. I do think it is sad that the V8 will no longer be used. Really gives the car character...

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Lostprophet

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Thursday 2nd June 2016
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Gio G said:
Lighter and with more power, cannot be a bad thing.. I test drove a very nice used RS5 a few weeks back, only on the off chance the local dealer could do a deal on my current A5... I absolutely loved it and the V8 was no doubt the reason for this joy. I do think it is sad that the V8 will no longer be used. Really gives the car character...

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Was it fast though?

Gio G

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Friday 3rd June 2016
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Lostprophet said:
Was it fast though?
Oh yes, very rapid indeed. Those down shift noises it makes in dynamic mode is very smile inducing, this one had the sports exhaust fitted. The only benchmark I can give is against my old Golf R and it felt remarkably quicker. I know that allot of journalists wrote the RS5 off, however in my eyes it is perfection. Amazing styling, V8 engine and quattro for all road conditions. Looking at the all new A5/S5, IMHO I think the RS5 still looks better!

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Lostprophet

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Saturday 4th June 2016
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Indeed, the RS5 is far better looking than the S5.

I have to say looking at the new 2017 S5 it isn't as nice imho.

Evolved

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Saturday 4th June 2016
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Depends what you want from a car I suppose.. Under steer and front heavy bias or rear steer and lots of fun.

Alucidnation

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Sunday 5th June 2016
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Evolved said:
Depends what you want from a car I suppose.. Under steer and front heavy bias or rear steer and lots of fun.
I bet you drive a BMW.

Lostprophet

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Monday 6th June 2016
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Evolved said:
Depends what you want from a car I suppose.. Under steer and front heavy bias or rear steer and lots of fun.
As you know BMW have too much power and not enough traction. There's no fun at that!

So you are sitting at the lights and some oik in a kitted out hatchback is revving his engine. The roads are wet, as usual in the UK, the lights go green and .... nothing. The BMW M-car would be useless. In a Quattro there wont be any issues!

Usability is useful! That said I am probably getting out of my S5 and into a M6 next year smile

EC2

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Monday 6th June 2016
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Mind it will have to put up with the A4/A5 nav screen that looks like someone stuck it on at the dealers. No idea why Audi made this simple mistake when most of the other cars all have retractable screens.

PorkRind

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Monday 6th June 2016
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Would take the BMW for driving dynamics every day of the week.

Vaud

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Monday 6th June 2016
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PorkRind said:
Would take the BMW for driving dynamics every day of the week.
Have you driven the unreleased 2017 car then? wink

W8PMC

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Monday 6th June 2016
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djc206 said:
Well they've not built anything remotely up to the RS6/7 so if the new RS4 and RS5 are as good they could make very tough competition for the M3/M4.

The new C63 coupe is the real threat to the RS5 for me, beautiful car, still a V8, bloody quick and an exhaust note that truly embarrasses the lacklustre attempts of BMW's M division.
Really? I beg to differ.

The M5/M6 are more than a match (albeit different driving dynamics) to the RS6/7. Yes the RS will get away a little quicker in less favourable conditions & if that's the only measure of how a car performs then fair enough, but I like many look a little deeper into what a car can do & how they perform & for me the M5 was the slightly better car. That doesn't make the M5 better or the RS6 worse, just different & having had several RS's the more engaging driving style of the M5 pleased me more.

Another differentiator is the Estate vs. Saloon, I prefer the look of a saloon car have no need to transport dogs/wardrobes, if this was a major factor perhaps the RS6 would be my preference, but it isn't.

Not sure I can agree on the C63 being a contender unless your only requirement is a decent exhaust note, in which case the AMG stomps on the Audi & the BMW, but again it's all down to personal choice & any of the 3 suitors should please the average buyer.


Edited by W8PMC on Monday 6th June 19:29

Evolved

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Monday 6th June 2016
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Lostprophet said:
As you know BMW have too much power and not enough traction. There's no fun at that!

So you are sitting at the lights and some oik in a kitted out hatchback is revving his engine. The roads are wet, as usual in the UK, the lights go green and .... nothing. The BMW M-car would be useless. In a Quattro there wont be any issues!

Usability is useful! That said I am probably getting out of my S5 and into a M6 next year smile
Too much power and not enough traction? For traffic light Grand Prix? Erm, hand your card back in at the door. tongue out

Evolved

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Monday 6th June 2016
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Alucidnation said:
I bet you drive a BMW.
Out of the 2 in question, everyday of the week.

Noyjatat

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Monday 6th June 2016
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Well this got to the age old German car comparison quickly. I am wondering what aesthetic changes they will make for the RS model.

Alucidnation

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Monday 6th June 2016
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Noyjatat said:
Well this got to the age old German car comparison quickly.
Indeed,

It's amazing how many BMW fanboys & Audi 'haters' actively seek out a thread in an Audi forum, just to post the same old line.

fking tedious.

Noyjatat

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Monday 6th June 2016
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To be honest I imagine it happens the other way round to on the BMW and Mercedes forums. All have their time and place for being the best. I drive an RS5 as my daily but cannot comment either way on the others often quoted as being better as I haven't used them as daily's.