Golf R questions
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gareth h

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4,329 posts

260 months

Monday 28th November 2016
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Gents, I test drove a DSG at the weekend, a couple of questions:
I hold the car on the brake with my left foot when stationary (I know the electric handbrake comes on but it is force of habit from driving my current auto). When pulling away, for example onto a roundabout there was a seconds delay before the car pulled away, is this normal or a result of something I was doing?
One of the reasons for considering a change is to be able to occasionally transport our labrador, I see the boot is smaller than a GTI due to the 4wd gubbins, does anybody have issues getting this sort of size dog in the back?
Thanks
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Ceeejay

504 posts

181 months

Monday 28th November 2016
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Doesn't sound normal, however difficult to say, as I've got used to the automatic hold on the brake when stopped. So its foot off the brake pedal when stationary, which as you've already pointed out, is a bit different to a traditional automatic.

I can imagine it might be getting on for half a second, if the engine has stopped, but otherwise I haven't noticed a delay.

And re the Labrador issue... Get the R estate. Loads of room, pretty much the same performance. (My personal preference has always been estate cars though)

Adrian E

3,367 posts

206 months

Monday 28th November 2016
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It might be that the interlock to prevent throttle use at the same time as the brake was kicking in, depending on how timely you're foot removal was with your throttle action?

Unlike ancient torque converter autos that would accept a degree of brake riding to 'spool up' the converter, modern systems are set up to actively discourage it. It's generally better to forget you've got a left foot with modern autos.

va1o

16,117 posts

237 months

Monday 28th November 2016
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Did you have Auto Hold turned off? Even if your foot was held on the brake pedal it would still have kicked in if turned on. So when you released the pedal the brakes would still be on.

Mr-captain

123 posts

130 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Not too sure about the newer dsg but the dsg in my mk5 r32 does this and always has done, it's the hill assist that causes part of the delay I think. Plus it has a clutch to engage unlike traditional autos so that also adds a little delay. This is more noticeable if you use launch control, you get a very noticeable pause after lifting off the brakes.

jonwm

2,746 posts

144 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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I've not got a Golf R but have had several Petrol DSG's including current Cupra, I would say this is due to left foot braking, it takes a few seconds to sort itself out after and get back to normal.

Ceeejay

504 posts

181 months

Tuesday 29th November 2016
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Just read your post properly and noticed the left foot braking thing... Never done that before on any automatic.

But back to my Golf R.

Stationary with engine running but auto hold engaged. A tiny delay on setting off, barely perceptible.

Stationary with engine stopped and auto hold engaged. Less than a second delay before moving. Clutch engages really quickly. Revs barely dip compared to when starting engine in neutral.

The only time I can think of where there is a slight delay, is first thing in the morning when manoeuvring on the driveway. I'll have a go without auto hold later, using the handbrake switch instead.


I can only assume your issue is a result of brake and accelerator being applied at the same time.

gareth h

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4,329 posts

260 months

Wednesday 30th November 2016
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Thanks, it does sound like an issue with me holding the car on the brake, I was going to try to get a demo in a manual car, will try to have a quick spin in another DSG to check.