Key cloning still possible?

[WannabeMKII]

We've a 2015 Golf with keyless and to cut a long story short, I have my suspicions that someone may have been trying to clone the key...

Is this actually still possible? I called VW and they claim that it was in the past, but not now, but if I wanted to reprogramme the keys to be sure, it's £65.

All and any feedback welcome, as we're now slightly worried.

Thanks.

[alanyork]

get a autowatch ghost fitted, job done, key safe.

[Billyray911]

It is possible.Get some aftermarket security.As mentioned,Autowatch Ghost and a disklock as a minimum.

[Who me ?]

Was mentioned on Briscoda a while ago. On the other hand, a neighbour had his Pug van entered without force (( police reckon cloned remote). I still reckon the best alarm is one independent from the remote( i.e. separate lock mounted on rear quarter/ somewhere non conspicuous. ) as it only takes someone with the likes of a Hiab remote unit to blot out comms from keyfob to car,and leave car unlocked.

[kmpowell]

Cloning is less of an issue than the biggest problem that impacts any car with keyless entry... Thieves now work in pairs using an amplifier and receiver. One thief stands by the car with the receiver, the second thief walks around the outside of your house using the amplifier which grabs the signal emitted from your key and passes it to the first thief's receiver. The receiver stores the signal and tricks the car to thinking the key is in the car. The car opens and can be driven away.

Press article with full video of the crime here: http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/29/thieves-could-steal-... Plus many more if you search.

The device is fully demonstrated in a video shown on NBC. They used it slightly differently, but its the same device: https://www.youtube.com/embed/nozGBpdBzog

The result: keeping your fob in your pocket or in the house is now useless, even most metal tins don't work.

It's why I bought one of these... http://amzn.to/2ssRNrC which my keys now live in when I'm not driving. It totally blocks the key's signal, and with the keys in the pouch even when I'm stood directly next to my car it can't be opened.

Oh and a Disklok is a must these days also for cars with keyless entry.

[Billyray911]

kmpowell said:

Cloning is less of an issue than the biggest problem that impacts any car with keyless entry... Thieves now work in pairs using an amplifier and receiver. One thief stands by the car with the receiver, the second thief walks around the outside of your house using the amplifier which grabs the signal emitted from your key and passes it to the first thief's receiver. The receiver stores the signal and tricks the car to thinking the key is in the car. The car opens and can be driven away.

Press article with full video of the crime here: http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/29/thieves-could-steal-... Plus many more if you search.

The device is fully demonstrated in a video shown on NBC. They used it slightly differently, but its the same device: https://www.youtube.com/embed/nozGBpdBzog

The result: keeping your fob in your pocket or in the house is now useless, even most metal tins don't work.

It's why I bought one of these... http://amzn.to/2ssRNrC which my keys now live in when I'm not driving. It totally blocks the key's signal, and with the keys in the pouch even when I'm stood directly next to my car it can't be opened.

Oh and a Disklok is a must these days also for cars with keyless entry.

Whilst relay attacks are becoming more common,cloning,burglary and robbery are still the prime ways to steal a car.

[Easternlight]

kmpowell said:

Oh and a Disklok is a must these days also for cars with keyless entry.

Brilliant! The modern world really never fails to shot it's self in the foot.

[TonyRPH]

Convenience and security simply do not go hand in hand.

That's the bottom line.