Cambelt change or dont bother
Cambelt change or dont bother
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fourstardan

Original Poster:

6,577 posts

174 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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On a golf thats 54 plate, 140k. (er indoors motor)...

It also needs a service so looking at 600-700 for this.

How long do you think i'd get not doing the cam? she does local shops mileage and im thinking to look for something else in the new year.


CoolHands

23,567 posts

225 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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I wouldn’t, on a car worth, what £1500-£2000?

Charlie Croker mk2

303 posts

130 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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On the other hand if the cam belt was to fail it would mean the car is scrap so new car time @ £8k or £12k or £25k ???

fourstardan

Original Poster:

6,577 posts

174 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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On a golf thats 54 plate, 140k. (er indoors motor)...

It also needs a service so looking at 600-700 for this.

How long do you think i'd get not doing the cam? she does local shops mileage and im thinking to look for something else in the new year.


NordicCrankShaft

1,957 posts

145 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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How long do you think it would take to win the lottery jackpot if you played every week?

Impossible to say over the Internet without seeing the belt.

Depending on what sort of mileage you do and in the understanding that you're driving the car to run it Into the ground I wouldn't bother

slk 32

1,531 posts

223 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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As long as the car's not a POS why not just get it done?

If the belt goes It'll just be scrap value so less than £100 - if you get it done then you've got another 5 years / 60k potentially.

I've got a 150k polo bluemotion.. worth bugger all but I put on a new turbo last year (£1800) and did the belt and clutch in 2014 (I'll do the belt again next year). I'll probably refresh the shocks and bushes next year too.

My view is it's a known quantity.. cheap to run and I know it's been maintained well by me over the last 30k, plus if I amortise the cost over the next 5 years it'll be peanuts (or potentially 3 months of the cost of a lease car) plus zero depreciation

HustleRussell

26,581 posts

190 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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600-700 seems a lot, find someone that'll do it for 500?

Cold starts do for cam belts so local shops mileage is about as bad as it gets in terms of duty cycle

JakeT

6,002 posts

150 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Russell echos my comments. It tends to be the stopping and starting of an engine that will take the belt out. Just do it, you'll get more for the car when you sell it.

Lincsls1

4,090 posts

170 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Any history of a prior cambelt change?
I'd say since you plan on a different car in the new year I would run the risk. Maybe just give it an oil service.
I took the bother of changing the cambelt on my 120k mile Astra diesel (at a garage) and the new belt snapped a few thousand later resulting in it needing a replacement engine. I'm convinced that if I'd have left alone I'd still have my original engine. I suspect poor workmanship may have been the cause or (less likely) something just didn't like being disturbed, but it was supposed to be a full kit replacement not just the belt.

x type

1,023 posts

220 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Neighbour has or did have a 1.2 polo 13 plate 64215 miles on clock
regular service but not vw service history done at local garage only
cambelt broke took valves out

Sold it for £500 to another garage for literally scrap value

gti_dreamer

176 posts

145 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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I just changed the belt, water pump etc on a car worth about £600. My understanding is that it's a maintenance part and I've had the car long enough to have changed the belt twice now and despite it being worth very little it is reliable, does the job we need of it and replacing it would be expensive ( - better the devil you know and all that) and an avoidable breakdown would be really annoying!

rockandrollmark

1,181 posts

253 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Personally if you know the car well and know it’s been well maintained otherwise, I would. I’ve put new cambelts on cars worth very little in the past and they’ve gone on to serve me well for years at very little extra cost, because the cars are otherwise in good mechanical condition (shocks, brakes, drive and suspension components etc).

Alternatively you don’t spend 600-700 pounds, it goes bang, and you spend twice that replacing it with a banger which has scraped through MOTs for the last five years, and thus is ready to through a bill worthy of putting on the scrap pile.

That’s aside from the environmental issue of running a car into the ground vs changing a bit of rubber, and the general arseache of shopping for mundane cars.

bearman68

4,940 posts

162 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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On the other hand the PD belts are really well spec'd and very rarely let go.

320touring

1,442 posts

229 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Cambelt roulette is a game of skill..

One needs to balance the savings from not having the cambelt replaced Vs the holy terror unleashed should the belt fail and the good lady is unable to complete her journey.

At the bottom of the market where I procure cars from, I just have multiple cars she uses to spread the risksmile

magpie215

5,037 posts

219 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Playing belt roulette on mine...no history but just going off a sticker on the cam cover I'm now 10 months over not sure mileage wise.

Just scraped another mot...Wish me luck for the next 12 months lol

slk 32

1,531 posts

223 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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As long as the car's not a POS why not just get it done?

If the belt goes It'll just be scrap value so less than £100 - if you get it done then you've got another 5 years / 60k potentially.

I've got a 150k polo bluemotion.. worth bugger all but I put on a new turbo last year (£1800) and did the belt and clutch in 2014 (I'll do the belt again next year). I'll probably refresh the shocks and bushes next year too.

My view is it's a known quantity.. cheap to run and I know it's been maintained well by me over the last 30k, plus if I amortise the cost over the next 5 years it'll be peanuts (or potentially 3 months of the cost of a lease car) plus zero depreciation

Mr Tidy

31,595 posts

157 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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Or just sell the poxy thing and buy something with a cam-chain! laugh

aka_kerrly

12,506 posts

240 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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fourstardan said:
On a golf thats 54 plate, 140k. (er indoors motor)...

It also needs a service so looking at 600-700 for this.

How long do you think i'd get not doing the cam? she does local shops mileage and im thinking to look for something else in the new year.
Where did you get the price for the service from? It shouldn't cost anywhere near that.

VW offer fixed price servicing on older cars, for you car (up to a 2.0L engine) it is £179 for minor/annual service and £349 for a major plus £494 for a cambelt kit - which i believe includes the tensioners + rollers as well as the belt itself.

Independents can save even more money, I don't know where you are in the country but in the South West there are a few VW specialists that quote around £280-350 for a 2.0 TDI Cambelt kit supplied + fitted.

Personally, I'd get the belt done & a minor service because it's one less thing to worry about and one major selling point if you do get rid of it in January.


tannhauser

1,773 posts

245 months

Monday 29th October 2018
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slk 32 said:
As long as the car's not a POS why not just get it done?

If the belt goes It'll just be scrap value so less than £100 - if you get it done then you've got another 5 years / 60k potentially.
Indeed. Why would't you? Just shows how stupid and wasteful we are as a society. Disgusting.

valiant

14,247 posts

190 months

Tuesday 30th October 2018
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Mr Tidy said:
Or just sell the poxy thing and buy something with a cam-chain! laugh
Yeah, what you need is a 320d with the N47 engine. Unburstable engine, never lets go.....much. wink

Op, if the car's been reliable then get it done. Better the devil you know and all that.