Q7 - 2014 vs current
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EdT

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Sunday 30th August 2020
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Hi - I drove a 2016 Q7 S-Line today - really impressed. How much better is a 2016 model vs the previous shape ? ie https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202008102...

Not been in the older car as yet - the middle seat in the middle row - is it usable for a large child? Looks a bit diddy in the photos in the add. And the rear seats in the 2016 car seemed pretty good - same in the older one?!
Thanks !
Ed

PhilboSE

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256 months

Monday 31st August 2020
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There was a facelift of the original Q7 which is what the 2016 model is. The differences that I can remember for the facelift are: 8 speed gearbox not 6, new headlights (led at rear), MMI and Satnav update.

The basic shape, engines, suspension and interior were the same. The middle seat in the second row is fine even if it is a nadge smaller than the other 2. You can get 3 child seats across the row if necessary. Not sure quite how big the “large” child is but we put our biggest in the middle with child/boosters on the outside, no problem.

Have a new model Q7 now for family duties, we seat 3 teenagers across the middle row (one of whom is a 6’2” 100kg rugby lump) and no complaints.

Edited by PhilboSE on Monday 31st August 23:35

EdT

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Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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The 2 in question are these...
The older one:
https://autovolostorage.blob.core.windows.net/adve...
and the newer one:
https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/autocar.co.uk/file...
I expect the newer one is the better car however
a. I prefer the look of the older one
2. It's cheaper!


PhilboSE

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Wednesday 2nd September 2020
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Ah ok. 2016 was very early for the 2nd gen Q7, and I think I was thrown by the 2914 in the thread title.

I’ve owned both first and second gen. Second gen is lighter and a huge overhaul on the interior. The seats are more flexible in how they arrange and access to the rear row is better as the middle row folds and tilts rather than hinging. The dash and tech is latest gen audi, it was the second model to get the new systems after the TT. Much more up to date than the old model.

Otherwise, they have similar functionality really. Similar boot sizes and carrying capacity. Economy is marginally better on the 2nd gen due to lighter car, tuned engine and very mild hybrid as well as things like coasting with gearbox disengaged. This results in much lower VED.

The new model sits a bit lower than the old one - it’s more of a tall estate now than a 4x4 on stilts.

Otherwise pretty similar really. New car is a nicer place to be but the old one does the job. I get what you’re saying about the looks too. Some of the details on the new model don’t quite work for me.

EdT

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Thursday 3rd September 2020
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A large part of me is tempted to buy the older one, for well under £20K and cross fingers it doesnt break
The smaller part of keeps saying 'but you spend your time IN the car.. sod what it looks like outside. Get the newer, lower VED one'

EdT

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Friday 4th September 2020
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Is it right these are chain driven, so no belt to change every 5 years?
Are there other high-cost 'every 5/X year' parts that are scheduled expected items ?

Edited by EdT on Friday 4th September 10:29

PhilboSE

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Friday 4th September 2020
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Chain drive, though there are other belts for e.g. injector pump IIRC.

I don't recall any regulation major costs like a cambelt. However, the older model is pretty heavy on the suspension system and front tyres - particularly if the pressures or tracking is out by any margin whatsoever - so that's where a lot of the cost comes. When it needs brakes & discs the OEM parts are expensive as well as I think they came from Brembo.

EdT

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Friday 4th September 2020
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PhilboSE said:
Chain drive, though there are other belts for e.g. injector pump IIRC.

I don't recall any regulation major costs like a cambelt. However, the older model is pretty heavy on the suspension system and front tyres - particularly if the pressures or tracking is out by any margin whatsoever - so that's where a lot of the cost comes. When it needs brakes & discs the OEM parts are expensive as well as I think they came from Brembo.
I can imagine with 2.3 tons to stop, those parts / tyres need to be top spec!

PhilboSE

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256 months

Friday 4th September 2020
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Yup I always put premium tyres on and swapped to winters as well. I think you really out to give the car the best chance of stopping, given its mass.

Some people advocated putting some offroad "grabber" tyres on them all year round on the basis that they were the right size and were cheap. I really couldn't get my head around that.