09 B8 Avant 2.0 T Quattro advice?
Discussion
First time posting in here. Normally a driver of the cars from
Munich.
Looking to get a new motor. Want it to be a petrol estate with 200+ bhp. I’ve been looking at the bmw 5 series but most in budget are diesel. And my miles don’t warrant a diesel.
So browsing Motors and seen this
https://www.motors.co.uk/car-57751860/?i=9&m=s...
It’s well within my budget. It has a lot of my wants in a next car (xenon, heated seats, sat nav, petrol and an estate). Having Quattro is a bonus, especially for where I live and the snow I can have.
What should I be looking for? I’ve read that these cars can drink oil? Were cars recalled because of this issue?
Any help will be great. Cheers.
Munich.
Looking to get a new motor. Want it to be a petrol estate with 200+ bhp. I’ve been looking at the bmw 5 series but most in budget are diesel. And my miles don’t warrant a diesel.
So browsing Motors and seen this
https://www.motors.co.uk/car-57751860/?i=9&m=s...
It’s well within my budget. It has a lot of my wants in a next car (xenon, heated seats, sat nav, petrol and an estate). Having Quattro is a bonus, especially for where I live and the snow I can have.
What should I be looking for? I’ve read that these cars can drink oil? Were cars recalled because of this issue?
Any help will be great. Cheers.
Owner of a 2011 2.0 TFSI A5 here.
You must must MUST have evidence that the engine has had a stage 2 or stage 3 fix by Audi or you will be paying for it yourself very soon.
Basically the piston rings are made of chocolate & fail letting oil into the combustion chamber at a small to start with rate going to a frighteningly large amount. The pistons will also probably be knackered & the bores can also become scored & will require replacement. That is expensive.....
Mine had a stage 2 fix - basically new pistons & piston rings & rebuild in the summer - with an 80% contribution from Audi UK. The contribution depends on service history.
I had new cam chain & tensioner done at the same time. Also new starter motor. I paid about £2000.
Cracking car & a decent engine when fixed but only when fixed...
You must must MUST have evidence that the engine has had a stage 2 or stage 3 fix by Audi or you will be paying for it yourself very soon.
Basically the piston rings are made of chocolate & fail letting oil into the combustion chamber at a small to start with rate going to a frighteningly large amount. The pistons will also probably be knackered & the bores can also become scored & will require replacement. That is expensive.....
Mine had a stage 2 fix - basically new pistons & piston rings & rebuild in the summer - with an 80% contribution from Audi UK. The contribution depends on service history.
I had new cam chain & tensioner done at the same time. Also new starter motor. I paid about £2000.
Cracking car & a decent engine when fixed but only when fixed...
dirty doug said:
Owner of a 2011 2.0 TFSI A5 here.
You must must MUST have evidence that the engine has had a stage 2 or stage 3 fix by Audi or you will be paying for it yourself very soon.
Basically the piston rings are made of chocolate & fail letting oil into the combustion chamber at a small to start with rate going to a frighteningly large amount. The pistons will also probably be knackered & the bores can also become scored & will require replacement. That is expensive.....
Mine had a stage 2 fix - basically new pistons & piston rings & rebuild in the summer - with an 80% contribution from Audi UK. The contribution depends on service history.
I had new cam chain & tensioner done at the same time. Also new starter motor. I paid about £2000.
Cracking car & a decent engine when fixed but only when fixed...
Cheers for the reply.You must must MUST have evidence that the engine has had a stage 2 or stage 3 fix by Audi or you will be paying for it yourself very soon.
Basically the piston rings are made of chocolate & fail letting oil into the combustion chamber at a small to start with rate going to a frighteningly large amount. The pistons will also probably be knackered & the bores can also become scored & will require replacement. That is expensive.....
Mine had a stage 2 fix - basically new pistons & piston rings & rebuild in the summer - with an 80% contribution from Audi UK. The contribution depends on service history.
I had new cam chain & tensioner done at the same time. Also new starter motor. I paid about £2000.
Cracking car & a decent engine when fixed but only when fixed...
Car has full service history and good MOT history.
I've been in contact with Audi customer service, and they've said to get in touch with the traders about the issue. So I assume that the dealers won't want to do anything which may incur a cost to them.
LGriffiths88 said:
dirty doug said:
Owner of a 2011 2.0 TFSI A5 here.
You must must MUST have evidence that the engine has had a stage 2 or stage 3 fix by Audi or you will be paying for it yourself very soon.
Basically the piston rings are made of chocolate & fail letting oil into the combustion chamber at a small to start with rate going to a frighteningly large amount. The pistons will also probably be knackered & the bores can also become scored & will require replacement. That is expensive.....
Mine had a stage 2 fix - basically new pistons & piston rings & rebuild in the summer - with an 80% contribution from Audi UK. The contribution depends on service history.
I had new cam chain & tensioner done at the same time. Also new starter motor. I paid about £2000.
Cracking car & a decent engine when fixed but only when fixed...
Cheers for the reply.You must must MUST have evidence that the engine has had a stage 2 or stage 3 fix by Audi or you will be paying for it yourself very soon.
Basically the piston rings are made of chocolate & fail letting oil into the combustion chamber at a small to start with rate going to a frighteningly large amount. The pistons will also probably be knackered & the bores can also become scored & will require replacement. That is expensive.....
Mine had a stage 2 fix - basically new pistons & piston rings & rebuild in the summer - with an 80% contribution from Audi UK. The contribution depends on service history.
I had new cam chain & tensioner done at the same time. Also new starter motor. I paid about £2000.
Cracking car & a decent engine when fixed but only when fixed...
Car has full service history and good MOT history.
I've been in contact with Audi customer service, and they've said to get in touch with the traders about the issue. So I assume that the dealers won't want to do anything which may incur a cost to them.
I found that politeness did get you somewhere with the dealer rather than quoting ‘I know my rights’...
If you could go back to the seller for a refund that would be my plan of action sadly.
The owners forums could be a good read for you & most people are helpful
The 2.0T quattro is a lovely car, but as advised, make sure the bottom end rebuild has been carried out by an Audi dealer with documented evidence to prove it. I had 2:
- a 2010 Avant that had the work carried out by an Audi dealer by the previous owner. Despite this it went pop. This could have been because it was one of the earlier fixes, or could possibly be due to the remap I had carried out (from a very well known/reputable provider). You can probably find the saga in the forums about what happened with that. Got a replacement engine in the end with a 75% Audi contribution
I then bought a facelift (2012->) Avant , which had the chocolate piston ring issue resolved at the design stage, and that never missed a beat (also with a remap). So the moral of the story is, if you can , get a facelift one.
With a remap and quattro they are quick - approx. 280 Bhp - sub 6 to 60.
Oh, and they do chew through front wheel bearings once they get to over 50k or so
- a 2010 Avant that had the work carried out by an Audi dealer by the previous owner. Despite this it went pop. This could have been because it was one of the earlier fixes, or could possibly be due to the remap I had carried out (from a very well known/reputable provider). You can probably find the saga in the forums about what happened with that. Got a replacement engine in the end with a 75% Audi contribution
I then bought a facelift (2012->) Avant , which had the chocolate piston ring issue resolved at the design stage, and that never missed a beat (also with a remap). So the moral of the story is, if you can , get a facelift one.
With a remap and quattro they are quick - approx. 280 Bhp - sub 6 to 60.
Oh, and they do chew through front wheel bearings once they get to over 50k or so
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