Anyone any thoughts on theMild hybrid Leon / Golf?

[EvoSid]

Looking at replacing our wee Polo that my daughter mainly uses but I do like driving it occasionally. We would like a slightly bigger car so a Leon or Golf seems like a good fit. Like the idea of the mild hybrid as most of our journeys are less than 30 miles so it makes sense.
Anyone got one to give an idea how they are in real life?

Other choices are used BMW 3 Series x drive but might "feel" to big for my daughter to park
Seat Ibiza / Polo as direct swaps

All would be DSG as we like these auto boxes

[SteBrown91]

If it’s mild hybrid you cannot run it in electric alone - it is basically a power unit to drive the ancillaries to allow stop start to be more efficient, rolls the car forward on battery briefly as the engine kicks back in (so it’s not jerky like in other stop/start cars) and gives the engine a boost to fill in any torque gaps etc (meaning the engine isn’t working as hard and in theory gives an mpg boost).

Not driven one but they are meant to be pretty decent. The 1.5 tsi is dull as dishwater though (girlfriend has a mk7.5 1.5).

[AJB88]

I recently had the new 2020 Leon FR hybrid press car which you could use in electric only was good for my trips round MK. Didn't use the petrol engine much at all.

[mawallace]

I think it depends on the model you buy, but AFAIK the 1.5 golf runs on petrol - it using hybrid to supplement the petrol

[EvoSid]

SteBrown91 said:

If it’s mild hybrid you cannot run it in electric alone - it is basically a power unit to drive the ancillaries to allow stop start to be more efficient, rolls the car forward on battery briefly as the engine kicks back in (so it’s not jerky like in other stop/start cars) and gives the engine a boost to fill in any torque gaps etc (meaning the engine isn’t working as hard and in theory gives an mpg boost).

Not driven one but they are meant to be pretty decent. The 1.5 tsi is dull as dishwater though (girlfriend has a mk7.5 1.5).

I think you are behind the times bud, The new ones are 1.4 Petrol Turbo with an electric battery claimed to do 40 miles in pure electric only mode, realistically 30-35 miles

The Leon e-Hybrid uses a 13kWh battery pack, which is a fairly big battery for a plug-in hybrid family car. As a result, Seat says the car can cover up to 36 miles on electric power alone, providing you set off with a fully charged battery. Car buyer 30 Oct 2020

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/seat/leon/353638/new...

Edited by EvoSid on Monday 1st February 00:41

[EvoSid]

mawallace said:

I think it depends on the model you buy, but AFAIK the 1.5 golf runs on petrol - it using hybrid to supplement the petrol

I think it is either or as it is a plug in hybrid.

The Leon e-Hybrid uses a 13kWh battery pack, which is a fairly big battery for a plug-in hybrid family car. As a result, Seat says the car can cover up to 36 miles on electric power alone, providing you set off with a fully charged battery.car buyer 30 Oct 2020

[EvoSid]

The Golf GTE is still a car for the every day as well as high days and holidays, but by adding a battery capable of supplying up to 40 miles of pure electric range (WLTP), alongside a peppy, 1.4-litre turbocharged petrol engine, in theory this is a car that’s fast, frugal and rather flavoursome when it comes to company car tax.

Full review here
https://www.whatcar.com/volkswagen/golf/hatchback/...

[EvoSid]

AJB88 said:

I recently had the new 2020 Leon FR hybrid press car which you could use in electric only was good for my trips round MK. Didn't use the petrol engine much at all.

Cheers how did you find the performance of the car once (if) the battery was out of power. Is the 1.4 got enough grunt ?

[AJB88]

The battery would drop as far as 1% but never 0% so you still always had the petrol+battery boost power and at 204ps (off the top of my head) its good.

[SteBrown91]

EvoSid said:

I think you are behind the times bud, The new ones are 1.4 Petrol Turbo with an electric battery claimed to do 40 miles in pure electric only mode, realistically 30-35 miles

The Leon e-Hybrid uses a 13kWh battery pack, which is a fairly big battery for a plug-in hybrid family car. As a result, Seat says the car can cover up to 36 miles on electric power alone, providing you set off with a fully charged battery. Car buyer 30 Oct 2020

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/seat/leon/353638/new...

Edited by EvoSid on Monday 1st February 00:41

No I think you are. The 1.5 etsi is a mild hybrid as I previously stated. You are talking about the full fat plug in hybrid that uses the old 1.4 engine which is not a “mild hybrid” as per your thread title.

[anonymous-user]

SteBrown91 said:

EvoSid said:

I think you are behind the times bud, The new ones are 1.4 Petrol Turbo with an electric battery claimed to do 40 miles in pure electric only mode, realistically 30-35 miles

The Leon e-Hybrid uses a 13kWh battery pack, which is a fairly big battery for a plug-in hybrid family car. As a result, Seat says the car can cover up to 36 miles on electric power alone, providing you set off with a fully charged battery. Car buyer 30 Oct 2020

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/seat/leon/353638/new...

Edited by EvoSid on Monday 1st February 00:41

No I think you are. The 1.5 etsi is a mild hybrid as I previously stated. You are talking about the full fat plug in hybrid that uses the old 1.4 engine which is not a “mild hybrid” as per your thread title.

Yes, the car in the autoexpress link is a PHEV, not a MHEV, the thread title's wrong.