fast a4 diesel ?
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I am looking for a fast a4 diesel (as we have a skoda vrs & dont want to go backwards!!)
What is the engine model to go for ,its a mine field out there!!!
I want diesel but need at least the equal of skoda (130bhp in small car)
I think i would need about 200 in car that weight/size to equal (so what model is that???
Have about £17k.
cheers lads
What is the engine model to go for ,its a mine field out there!!!
I want diesel but need at least the equal of skoda (130bhp in small car)
I think i would need about 200 in car that weight/size to equal (so what model is that???
Have about £17k.
cheers lads
For £17k you could also get.....
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/269415.htm
Should have a decent turn of pace ; )
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/269415.htm
Should have a decent turn of pace ; )
hmmm, S4 is a different kettle of fish. I never got the mpg beyond the high-teens.
If you need economy then a diesel is the way forward, but Audi's hold there value - if you are not a high milage driver maybe petrol would be better.
I was going to suggest an A4 3.0tdi, but they are rare and may not fall into your budget.
How about this as a mid-point between the two extremes?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/305268.htm
If you need economy then a diesel is the way forward, but Audi's hold there value - if you are not a high milage driver maybe petrol would be better.
I was going to suggest an A4 3.0tdi, but they are rare and may not fall into your budget.
How about this as a mid-point between the two extremes?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/305268.htm
problemchild said:
hmmm, S4 is a different kettle of fish. I never got the mpg beyond the high-teens.
If you need economy then a diesel is the way forward, but Audi's hold there value - if you are not a high milage driver maybe petrol would be better.
I was going to suggest an A4 3.0tdi, but they are rare and may not fall into your budget.
How about this as a mid-point between the two extremes?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/305268.htm
Many thanks ,that is nice, what sort of mpg & bhp are those 3.0 that is petrol i presume?If you need economy then a diesel is the way forward, but Audi's hold there value - if you are not a high milage driver maybe petrol would be better.
I was going to suggest an A4 3.0tdi, but they are rare and may not fall into your budget.
How about this as a mid-point between the two extremes?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/305268.htm
There should be plenty of 2.7 TDi's and 3.0 TDi's about?
Both 6-pot oil burners, and generally well reported
Generally better specs too!
Else, you can get the 2.0 TDi 4-pot in a 170bhp flavour too...my wife had one in a Golf GT, and it was as quick in terms of acceleration as the Golf R32 I was driving at the time
Both 6-pot oil burners, and generally well reported
Generally better specs too!
Else, you can get the 2.0 TDi 4-pot in a 170bhp flavour too...my wife had one in a Golf GT, and it was as quick in terms of acceleration as the Golf R32 I was driving at the time
The 3 litre diesel A4 goes like feck - loads of torque and tops out at 147 mph as I found out last summer (off the public road, cough). My R32 had a slightly challenging drive keeping up with one carrying 3 pie-eating contest winners somewhere near the A50 in Derbyshire.
And they will still do over 30 mpg driven sensibly.
And they will still do over 30 mpg driven sensibly.
brisel said:
The 3 litre diesel A4 goes like feck - loads of torque and tops out at 147 mph as I found out last summer (off the public road, cough). My R32 had a slightly challenging drive keeping up with one carrying 3 pie-eating contest winners somewhere near the A50 in Derbyshire.
And they will still do over 30 mpg driven sensibly.
Cheers for reply, I have £20k which is not enough for a 3ltr diesel (i thought!)but a friend has an 07 plate 6 mths old which he paid £35k for & they have offered him £23k !!! so i am trying to do a deal with him!And they will still do over 30 mpg driven sensibly.
Is that a good buy for £24k ,it has done 10K miles
3.0 diesel is great but onl go for it if you can afford a car with lots of toys as people expect this on a top end model.
2.7 is alright, but again probably too new to get a nice one in budget.
140 and 170 are the same (just a marketing thing really like the 210 and 225 engines) and yes, a remap will be under 500 if you drop me a PM and ask nicely
140 and 170 are both torque restricted heavily by the ECU so they don't blow up the DSG box, get a manual, get a remap and let it off the leash!
2.7 is alright, but again probably too new to get a nice one in budget.
140 and 170 are the same (just a marketing thing really like the 210 and 225 engines) and yes, a remap will be under 500 if you drop me a PM and ask nicely
140 and 170 are both torque restricted heavily by the ECU so they don't blow up the DSG box, get a manual, get a remap and let it off the leash!
Dr G said:
3.0 diesel is great but onl go for it if you can afford a car with lots of toys as people expect this on a top end model.
2.7 is alright, but again probably too new to get a nice one in budget.
140 and 170 are the same (just a marketing thing really like the 210 and 225 engines) and yes, a remap will be under 500 if you drop me a PM and ask nicely
140 and 170 are both torque restricted heavily by the ECU so they don't blow up the DSG box, get a manual, get a remap and let it off the leash!
Cheers for erply2.7 is alright, but again probably too new to get a nice one in budget.
140 and 170 are the same (just a marketing thing really like the 210 and 225 engines) and yes, a remap will be under 500 if you drop me a PM and ask nicely
140 and 170 are both torque restricted heavily by the ECU so they don't blow up the DSG box, get a manual, get a remap and let it off the leash!
What is 140 & 170 ? is this model number ?
What year & what price for one of those? I dont really know what to look for in adds?
The Audi.s have confusing model numbers? Are these ones petrol or diesel?
Sorry to be a pain?????
iaiin said:
brisel said:
Diesels:
1.9 115 or 130 hp
2.0 140 or 170 hp
2.5
2.7
3.0
Petrol:
1.8
1.8T
2.0FSI
2.0T 197 hp GTI engine
2.4
2.6
3.0
4.2 V8
what year are the 2.5 & 2.7 diesels?1.9 115 or 130 hp
2.0 140 or 170 hp
2.5
2.7
3.0
Petrol:
1.8
1.8T
2.0FSI
2.0T 197 hp GTI engine
2.4
2.6
3.0
4.2 V8
2.7 diesel is a recent (ie last 18 months or so) direct replacemet for the 2.5. Think its effectively the same engine, just re-worked a bit
The "140" and "170" refers to BHP (well PS actually - but nearly the same thing): the 2.0 TDi engine was released as 140 and intended to replace the older generation 1.9 PD TDi engines which variously came with 130 or 150 BHP. They then released a higher output 170BHP version about 12 months ago.
It does have a lot of shove, but is a bit peaky - my wife had one in a Golf GT, and it was a bit "all or nothing"
must say i would get a quattro if you want a fast desiel to keep all that torque in check. I can also second the 2.5tdi quattro sport, bit older and cheaper than what you are looking at now but certainly goes well.
I would also suggest sticking with the sports setup as well as the quattro, this will make for a more engaging drive. Although the old SE suspension wasnt that bad, you just fell out of the seat on every corner..
I would also suggest sticking with the sports setup as well as the quattro, this will make for a more engaging drive. Although the old SE suspension wasnt that bad, you just fell out of the seat on every corner..
2.7 tdi doesn't add any power, but does have a broader spread of torque over the 2.5 and piezo injection improves economy noticably.
Chipping 2.5s is a bit of a grey area, 180BHP is considered by a lot of people the safe limit of the engine. Not sure what a 2.7 will do, bit new still.
Chipping 2.5s is a bit of a grey area, 180BHP is considered by a lot of people the safe limit of the engine. Not sure what a 2.7 will do, bit new still.
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