A4 TDi Stalling
Discussion
Okay, bit of an odd one I know.
But since picking up my 6-month old A4 TDi I have stalled it a fair few times.
Now, this could be just because the clutch is a lot lighter than I'm used to, coupled with the diesel engine stalling easier.
However, i don't recall having any problems on the test drive, and its not something I normally suffer from - they serviced it before i picked it up, it happened twice when I was parking, very low speed manovers, and i just wondered if there could be something amiss?
or is it simply my driving?
But since picking up my 6-month old A4 TDi I have stalled it a fair few times.
Now, this could be just because the clutch is a lot lighter than I'm used to, coupled with the diesel engine stalling easier.
However, i don't recall having any problems on the test drive, and its not something I normally suffer from - they serviced it before i picked it up, it happened twice when I was parking, very low speed manovers, and i just wondered if there could be something amiss?
or is it simply my driving?
Same problem with our A6 2.0 TDI, mainly when cold and totally unexpected sometimes too. Can leave you dangerously stranded at times due to the ridiculous re-starting procedure too.
Been to dealer to no avail and they've never heard of the problem, but that is expected of the Audi dealers I suppose.
Been to dealer to no avail and they've never heard of the problem, but that is expected of the Audi dealers I suppose.
We have the older 1.9 tdi and its a proper 'industrial' type diesel. The torque at idle means you can manouvere/park at slow speeds and even pull away without using the throttle at all - its actually quite hard to stall.
But I noticed driving a newer 2.0tdi in a mates A4 the other day that VAG seem to have dialled this out of their new diesels - and yup, I stalled as soon as I pulled away. Maybe done in a bid to make them feel more like petrol and less like diesels of yesteryear??
But I noticed driving a newer 2.0tdi in a mates A4 the other day that VAG seem to have dialled this out of their new diesels - and yup, I stalled as soon as I pulled away. Maybe done in a bid to make them feel more like petrol and less like diesels of yesteryear??
They all do that, Happens to cars from new 07 chassis on, and to older cars (05 + 06)after a software update/recall, think it was 26D9. I stall them from time to time, but you do get used to it eventually. Its 2.0Dti only so 1.9's will be ok.
Had a customer complaining about it only today on an A6 2.0TDI, he tried another car and confirmed having same problem, i demonstrated a few no rev pull aways to prove it can be done and politely as i could advised him to get used to the characteristic and adjust driving style to suit. Fortunately he just got the car 6 month old used, the real problem is when people notice the change straight after the update.
If its absolutely unbearably and you keep cutting out in the middle of busy roundabouts etc. it is possible to downgrade the software update but most Audi dealers wont know about it, and it was updated for a reason (to protect the clutch and flywheel from damage) so has to be a last resort for repeat visit customers only.
Had a customer complaining about it only today on an A6 2.0TDI, he tried another car and confirmed having same problem, i demonstrated a few no rev pull aways to prove it can be done and politely as i could advised him to get used to the characteristic and adjust driving style to suit. Fortunately he just got the car 6 month old used, the real problem is when people notice the change straight after the update.
If its absolutely unbearably and you keep cutting out in the middle of busy roundabouts etc. it is possible to downgrade the software update but most Audi dealers wont know about it, and it was updated for a reason (to protect the clutch and flywheel from damage) so has to be a last resort for repeat visit customers only.
Edited by Tame Technician on Tuesday 6th May 20:15
Tame Technician said:
They all do that, Happens to cars from new 07 chassis on, and to older cars (05 + 06)after a software update/recall, think it was 26D9. I stall them from time to time, but you do get used to it eventually. Its 2.0Dti only so 1.9's will be ok.
Had a customer complaining about it only today on an A6 2.0TDI, he tried another car and confirmed having same problem, i demonstrated a few no rev pull aways to prove it can be done and politely as i could advised him to get used to the characteristic and adjust driving style to suit. Fortunately he just got the car 6 month old used, the real problem is when people notice the change straight after the update.
If its absolutely unbearably and you keep cutting out in the middle of busy roundabouts etc. it is possible to downgrade the software update but most Audi dealers wont know about it, and it was updated for a reason (to protect the clutch and flywheel from damage) so has to be a last resort for repeat visit customers only.
thanks, that does explain it... and im sure i'll learn to live with it!Had a customer complaining about it only today on an A6 2.0TDI, he tried another car and confirmed having same problem, i demonstrated a few no rev pull aways to prove it can be done and politely as i could advised him to get used to the characteristic and adjust driving style to suit. Fortunately he just got the car 6 month old used, the real problem is when people notice the change straight after the update.
If its absolutely unbearably and you keep cutting out in the middle of busy roundabouts etc. it is possible to downgrade the software update but most Audi dealers wont know about it, and it was updated for a reason (to protect the clutch and flywheel from damage) so has to be a last resort for repeat visit customers only.
Edited by Tame Technician on Tuesday 6th May 20:15
I have a 2012 A5 TDi Quattro, and had a VERY nasty experience last weekend in the lake district. This car's normally like a little goat in the snow, I was coming down a hill very slowly 1st gear due to snow on road, when I lost grip and went into an uncontrollable slide. I made for the rough at the roadside but this gave no help and the back end came round so I was then sliding sideways down the hill with 3 passengers on board. The engine then stalled, so I had no power, no steering and no brakes. I managed to freewheel into an inclined opening and bring it to a stop. Due to crappy brick in slot restart system while pressing the clutch I couldn't get the engine going again quickly.
If there had been a road edge with a drop, we'd have been over and gone.
Another A5 coming down the same hill minutes later lost it and smacked sideways into the rocks on a bend at the bottom.
I've had the car 2 years and it is super-reliable with great performance and roadholding in normal conditions, although my wife hates everything about it. After this experience I am very wary. Too many clever gadgets - solutions to problems that don't exist!
If there had been a road edge with a drop, we'd have been over and gone.
Another A5 coming down the same hill minutes later lost it and smacked sideways into the rocks on a bend at the bottom.
I've had the car 2 years and it is super-reliable with great performance and roadholding in normal conditions, although my wife hates everything about it. After this experience I am very wary. Too many clever gadgets - solutions to problems that don't exist!
Sorry to hear about the "moment" in the snow / ice. Sadly if you lock the driving wheels in anything, there is going to be a stall
Solution ? Winter tyres
The modern CR engine in your car, is not in any way going to have the same concerns as the PD engine decussed in this thread from 2008 though.
Solution ? Winter tyres
The modern CR engine in your car, is not in any way going to have the same concerns as the PD engine decussed in this thread from 2008 though.
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