S4 Uneven tyre wear
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JohnP68

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426 posts

312 months

Saturday 6th September 2008
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Took my B6 S4 for an MOT the other day and it failed due to "dangerous" wear on the inside edges of both front tyres. Tyres are Goodyear F1's. Geometry has been tested and it's fine. Anyone else had similar problems and know the cause? The outside edges were more worn than the central part of the tread (which had 6mm or more tread left), but not as bad as the inside edges. The rear tyres were replaced at the same time as the fronts about one year ago, guess less than 10K miles ago, and they are still fine. Will take to dealer for check up when I get a chance, but interested to know if anyone else has had this problem. Cheers.

R6RY D

299 posts

271 months

Saturday 6th September 2008
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i have a a4 withe 18 inch rs6 wheels and tryes, i have exactly the same problem, there doesnt seem to be a cure, so i keep my eyes on them then swap them to the back, as i too got caugyht out like this, the bloody canvas was on show!!! yet there was a solid 3- 4 mm on the main tread!?

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

252 months

Saturday 6th September 2008
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I've worn out two sets on mine, about 10,000 miles a set, but never had any uneven wear.

ukdavvy12

182 posts

225 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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What are your actual tyre pressures?

Whats recommended?

And how obsessive have you been about checking them?

I ask as I trashed a set of Bridgestone 275's on a BMW by being lazy
Now I get much longer life

cheers

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

252 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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ukdavvy12 said:
What are your actual tyre pressures?

Whats recommended?

And how obsessive have you been about checking them?
39F 35R

39F 35R

Very.

But I'm not the one with the problem.

Dr G

15,987 posts

272 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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Have you had the front suspension links/bushes checked out? It's perfectly possible your static geometry is fine but if any of the bushes have gone soft...

matts4

2,112 posts

221 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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Fort Jefferson said:
ukdavvy12 said:
What are your actual tyre pressures?

Whats recommended?

And how obsessive have you been about checking them?
39F 35R

39F 35R

Very.

But I'm not the one with the problem.
I'm pretty sure my fuel flap states 39 front and rear, or 42 front and rear when loaded

JohnP68

Original Poster:

426 posts

312 months

Monday 8th September 2008
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Dr G said:
Have you had the front suspension links/bushes checked out? It's perfectly possible your static geometry is fine but if any of the bushes have gone soft...
Well I had the car serviced at a well known independent based in Iver a couple of thousand miles ago. Is this something they would have checked as part of the service? smile

Edited by JohnP68 on Monday 8th September 22:18

ukdavvy12

182 posts

225 months

Monday 8th September 2008
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I would be suprised if the geometry was checked that closely at a routine service

The fact that you have ignored my post about tyre pressures makes me suspect you dont think its important

Thus I would hypothesize that you dont check your own regularly and yours may have wandered leading to the wear pattern you describe

smile

nail_it

968 posts

238 months

Tuesday 9th September 2008
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JohnP68

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426 posts

312 months

Tuesday 9th September 2008
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ukdavvy12 said:
I would be suprised if the geometry was checked that closely at a routine service

The fact that you have ignored my post about tyre pressures makes me suspect you dont think its important

Thus I would hypothesize that you dont check your own regularly and yours may have wandered leading to the wear pattern you describe

smile
Your hypothesis is wrong! I incorrectly assumed that your post was directed at the post immediately before yours, i.e. the one from FJ.

I run the pressures recommended in the manual, and check them about once a month using my own gauge, not one from some dodgy garage.

Re the last service my question was regarding whether they would have inspected the suspension links/bushes (as suggested by Dr G) - not whether they would have checked the geometry

Yertis

19,734 posts

296 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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They all do that, Sir.

Well in my experience they do - all my Quattros (and I've had few) have chewed up the inside edges of the front tyres, and yes all the bushes and alignments etc were checked and fine. Not worn so very badly on the ur's, mind, but pretty bad on the C4s and on whatever generation the AllRoad is.

brisel

981 posts

238 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Not much help, I know, but VAG Haldex cars do it too - my R32 got through a couple of pairs of fronts before I had the alignment done by race engineer Neil Garner, who added 2 degrees of toe-in to counteract the wear & bad camber.

www.neilgarner.co.uk

mel

10,168 posts

305 months

Thursday 11th September 2008
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yep my s4 is guilty as well

TiggerS400

6 posts

217 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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My S4 has the same issue, it ate the inside edge of a set of the 19 inch Goodyear F1's in about 9500 miles. Had a 4 wheel alignment check and all was fine, now running Continentals and they seem to wearing much more evenly. Maybe the brand seems to affect this more?

JohnP68

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426 posts

312 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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I think you may be right. Come to think of it, the outside edges were worn quite a bit more than the centre of the tyre. I'm going to get the suspension etc checked out soon, but in the meantime have increased the pressures by a couple of psi (from 39 psi, which I think is the recommended pressure for unladen, up to 41 psi, just below the 42 psi recommended for fully laden use). Might cope better with the way I tend to go around roundaboutssmile

nail_it

968 posts

238 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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JohnP68 said:
I think you may be right. Come to think of it, the outside edges were worn quite a bit more than the centre of the tyre. I'm going to get the suspension etc checked out soon, but in the meantime have increased the pressures by a couple of psi (from 39 psi, which I think is the recommended pressure for unladen, up to 41 psi, just below the 42 psi recommended for fully laden use). Might cope better with the way I tend to go around roundaboutssmile
Yep, good idea to up the pressure on the front from 39 to 41.
Exactly what I did not long after getting my s4.
Does help lessen the wear on the outside edges.
Plus, get yourself some Michelins.

JohnP68

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426 posts

312 months

Saturday 20th September 2008
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Unfortunately (perhaps) I've replaced the fronts with another set of F1's. The new ones are the asymmetric's though, so might be better anyway. I hope so, as I've been very pleased with the ride etc from the F1's, so I'd like to stick with them.

This has prompted me to check my paperwork and it looks like I actually got about 16K miles out of the fronts, which isn't too bad given the way I drive it I think! The rears, which were replaced at the same time, have about 4mm tread left, so I'd expect to replace them fairly soon anyway.

nail_it

968 posts

238 months

Sunday 21st September 2008
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JohnP68 said:
it looks like I actually got about 16K miles out of the fronts, which isn't too bad given the way I drive it I think!
Think you've done well there wink