A4 Avant Handling
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Richie350

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344 posts

229 months

Thursday 6th August 2009
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I have a 57Plate A4 Avant S-Line Quattro, and want to improve the handling of the car to make it more fun to drive. Advise please!!!! I have been told if I lower the car I will need to get the geometry set up correctly??

Any advise would be most welcome.

Richie

the_g_ster

384 posts

226 months

Thursday 6th August 2009
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Easy, sell it, and buy a BM 330/335.

Colonial

13,553 posts

236 months

Thursday 6th August 2009
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Eibach springs and bilstein shocks.

TimCrighton

996 posts

247 months

Thursday 6th August 2009
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Morning.

There are a range of modifications you can look at to improve the handling. As you rightly say you can consider a replacement spring/damper combination which is likely to lower the car (thus reducing the C of G) and effects the roll centre of the car. An uprated spring/damper combo is likely to combined increased damping and increased spring poundages - these will stiffen the car and improve handling but will have a negative impact on ride quality - although some will be better than others. The replacement of any damper/spring combo will necessitate a geometry check to realign the toe angles and camber which are likely to have been effected by the work - it is IMPERATIVE that you have this done other incorrect angles can negate any improvements made in the handling by the new suspension kit.

Other consideration will be the replacement of the existing ARB's with uprated items which reduce roll in the car. A great modification, but you will improve the level of small vibration in the car as suspension impacts are transfered more rigidly from side to side on the car.

You could also look at replacing the existing rubber bushes with poly items which tighten the geometry of the car, and unlike the original rubber items do not flex under load. The advantages of rubber being they take out some of the vibration by the also flex under load which can easily alter track/toe/camber angles thus effecting handling.

HTH.

Edited by TimCrighton on Thursday 6th August 08:00

Dr G

15,990 posts

273 months

Thursday 6th August 2009
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Nicely summed up Tim smile

Eibach Anti-roll bars are probably a good starting place if you don't want to overly impact the already fairly firm ride.

Tame Technician

2,467 posts

235 months

Thursday 6th August 2009
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Just fit RS4 22mm rear anti roll bar + bushes.

Sharpens up the turn in very nicely and wont compromise the ride like new springs and dampers will.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

255 months

Thursday 6th August 2009
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You can't compromise the S-Line suspension set up on the B7, it is manages to be crashy and wallow at the same time, an engineering miracle!! wink



Fit an RS4 rear anti roll bar before doing anything else.
Then I would look at suspension, but it won't really make it more fun, the car has been designed to under steer and feel safe, I have been in a few with coilovers and you never get round this.
Just look at where the engine is compared with the front axle, that's the area you need to mod.

As someone else said, if you want a sporty, fun handling estate buy a BMW or the new Mercedes C Class, properly balanced and RWD, the difference is not subtle.

Edited by gizlaroc on Thursday 6th August 23:59

T89 Callan

8,422 posts

224 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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Buy the best tyres availiable.

This will make for more noticable difference than suspension mod on a car that is still fairly new and tight.

Other than that and Anti-roll bar upgrade is the next option.

Isoproturon1

3,640 posts

232 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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the_g_ster said:
Easy, sell it, and buy a BM 330/335.
Not everyone wants a cliched, over-rated car.

Richie350

Original Poster:

344 posts

229 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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many thanks for your help guys, does anyone have a rear ARB they want to part with? as for the BMW330/335 well i think I will stick with the AUDI for everyday and just jump in my Noble for when I have my fun head on smile

Edited by Richie350 on Saturday 8th August 04:14