AUDI A4 1.8T 2006 MASSIVE ENGINE ISSUE HELP
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I have a 2006 Audi A4 Cab 1.8t Full Audi history 40k but its 4 months over its 3yr manufactures warranty, the oil pump has failed and wrecked the turbo as well so massive bill looming.
I have the car at my local garage at the moment and was just wondering if anyone can advise how I approach Audi and if they are likely to fix the fault even though it’s just out of warranty ?
I have the car at my local garage at the moment and was just wondering if anyone can advise how I approach Audi and if they are likely to fix the fault even though it’s just out of warranty ?
i cant help with the warranty question (although there are others here that certainly can) if its FASH then I think you will be in a more suitable position. Mine did something very similar, the pick-up in the sump choked, on full boost and in a few seconds choked the top end and the turbo sounded like a tractor very quickly. Sourced some parts myself but my total bill was £1200 at an indy for this. What I am pointing at for mine was the sump pickup blocking which I believe the chances of it blocking are increased with long life oil. If all done by Audi this has to help the cause. but the bigger issue is you are just out of warranty, i have no idea how that stands.
You didn't pull over and check the oil did you?
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In seriousness, if it has Full Audi Service History and you did everything by the book, i.e not drive it with the oil light on, etc, Audi may either contribute to the cost or do a goodwill gesture and repair it FOC being as it's just out of warranty.
They are under no legal obligation to do this however.
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In seriousness, if it has Full Audi Service History and you did everything by the book, i.e not drive it with the oil light on, etc, Audi may either contribute to the cost or do a goodwill gesture and repair it FOC being as it's just out of warranty.
They are under no legal obligation to do this however.
start looking for a 2nd hand engine, then find a local garage to fit it for you.
I can help depending on where you are in the country.
Edited to add, you are in the same county as me, PM me when you have an engine, or give me the engine code and I'll ask the guy I know who specialises in 1.8T VAG engines.
I can help depending on where you are in the country.
Edited to add, you are in the same county as me, PM me when you have an engine, or give me the engine code and I'll ask the guy I know who specialises in 1.8T VAG engines.
Edited by hman on Friday 23 October 13:14
Soovy said:
Audi have zero obligation to you. Nothing.
They MIGHT do something out of goodwill. But don't hold your breath. They'll say you could have renewed the warranty and didn't.
Actually for all their faults Audi are not bad at this kind of thing, in my experience. They see this kind of thing as very bad PR and so far as I can tell do try to help within reason. I once had a radiator damaged in an accident and because it was on back order they lent me a brand new A6 FOC until they could get hold of one. They never asked for it back either, I had to struggle to find someone at Milton Keynes who'd take it off my hands.They MIGHT do something out of goodwill. But don't hold your breath. They'll say you could have renewed the warranty and didn't.
On the other hand their support for older models sucks.
LeoSayer said:
Perhaps the sales of goods act could apply here.
FFS, what is it with PH and the f
king Sale of Goods Act?Unless you bought the car quite recently with the fault already present (which it wasn't because you said it blew when you were driving it) then you can't refer to the SOGA.
You'll just either be shown the warranty which you chose not to extend or they'll do some goodwill for you.
Sorry Leosayer - this isn't a dig at you but the amount of people spouting SOGA as some kind of guardian angel when someone's warranty expires really grates.
..You are correct. The sale of goods act is no use here at all.
Providing the car has full service history with a main Audi dealer, you stand to get a good contrabution towards the repair. Audi's stance on it will be that you had the option of a extended warranty,and you didnt take it, so thats why it will be a contrabution only.
I would be supprised that it has done any engine damage,so it wont need a replacment engine. It will need however,
a oil pump & strainer,turbo charger and engine breather pipes to be replaced. it has been known that in some cases its the breathers that are the route cause of the oil starvation issues. The breathers collapse,cause sky high crank case compression which causes the particals to block the oil pick up.
Hope this helps and good luck with your claim.
Providing the car has full service history with a main Audi dealer, you stand to get a good contrabution towards the repair. Audi's stance on it will be that you had the option of a extended warranty,and you didnt take it, so thats why it will be a contrabution only.
I would be supprised that it has done any engine damage,so it wont need a replacment engine. It will need however,
a oil pump & strainer,turbo charger and engine breather pipes to be replaced. it has been known that in some cases its the breathers that are the route cause of the oil starvation issues. The breathers collapse,cause sky high crank case compression which causes the particals to block the oil pick up.
Hope this helps and good luck with your claim.
Muzzer said:
LeoSayer said:
Perhaps the sales of goods act could apply here.
FFS, what is it with PH and the fking Sale of Goods Act?Unless you bought the car quite recently with the fault already present (which it wasn't because you said it blew when you were driving it) then you can't refer to the SOGA.
You'll just either be shown the warranty which you chose not to extend or they'll do some goodwill for you.
Sorry Leosayer - this isn't a dig at you but the amount of people spouting SOGA as some kind of guardian angel when someone's warranty expires really grates.
Blackpool Rocker said:
..You are correct. The sale of goods act is no use here at all.
Providing the car has full service history with a main Audi dealer, you stand to get a good contrabution towards the repair. Audi's stance on it will be that you had the option of a extended warranty,and you didnt take it, so thats why it will be a contrabution only.
I would be supprised that it has done any engine damage,so it wont need a replacment engine. It will need however,
a oil pump & strainer,turbo charger and engine breather pipes to be replaced. it has been known that in some cases its the breathers that are the route cause of the oil starvation issues. The breathers collapse,cause sky high crank case compression which causes the particals to block the oil pick up.
Hope this helps and good luck with your claim.
then you'd be suprised to hear about a certain a3 1.8T 150 which blew its bottom and top end but not the turbo through oil pick up issues. that was last week.Providing the car has full service history with a main Audi dealer, you stand to get a good contrabution towards the repair. Audi's stance on it will be that you had the option of a extended warranty,and you didnt take it, so thats why it will be a contrabution only.
I would be supprised that it has done any engine damage,so it wont need a replacment engine. It will need however,
a oil pump & strainer,turbo charger and engine breather pipes to be replaced. it has been known that in some cases its the breathers that are the route cause of the oil starvation issues. The breathers collapse,cause sky high crank case compression which causes the particals to block the oil pick up.
Hope this helps and good luck with your claim.
Soovy said:
Muzzer said:
LeoSayer said:
Perhaps the sales of goods act could apply here.
FFS, what is it with PH and the fking Sale of Goods Act?Unless you bought the car quite recently with the fault already present (which it wasn't because you said it blew when you were driving it) then you can't refer to the SOGA.
You'll just either be shown the warranty which you chose not to extend or they'll do some goodwill for you.
Sorry Leosayer - this isn't a dig at you but the amount of people spouting SOGA as some kind of guardian angel when someone's warranty expires really grates.
Edited by LeoSayer on Friday 23 October 21:51
There's a problem with Corsas snapping their camshafts a few mths out of warranty. Vauxhall deny any issue, but they've settled cases in full when court proceedings have been issued (and, strictly, they don't have any legal liability as that rests with the dealer that supplied the vehicle).
A reasonable person would not expect a modern car, especially a "quality" car such as an Audi, to break at such a relatively early age and mileage. The fact that it did break (assuming it's been serviced properly) is sufficient to indicate that the vehicle is not of satisfactory quality.
Get it fixed at the dealer and, if, Audi don't pay the vast majority of the cost, pay the bill under protest. Then send whoever you bought the car off the bill (assuming it's a dealer, not a private individual). If they don't pay then use MoneyClaimonLine to sue them. It's worth a punt as it costs little and chances are they'll settle beforehand anyway.
ETA: If you're not the original owner, and, especially if you bought the car privately, then you could try what the Vauxhall owners are going and issue proceedings against Audi UK. Suing Vx worked for people with Corsas, but I am surprised by that.
A reasonable person would not expect a modern car, especially a "quality" car such as an Audi, to break at such a relatively early age and mileage. The fact that it did break (assuming it's been serviced properly) is sufficient to indicate that the vehicle is not of satisfactory quality.
Get it fixed at the dealer and, if, Audi don't pay the vast majority of the cost, pay the bill under protest. Then send whoever you bought the car off the bill (assuming it's a dealer, not a private individual). If they don't pay then use MoneyClaimonLine to sue them. It's worth a punt as it costs little and chances are they'll settle beforehand anyway.
ETA: If you're not the original owner, and, especially if you bought the car privately, then you could try what the Vauxhall owners are going and issue proceedings against Audi UK. Suing Vx worked for people with Corsas, but I am surprised by that.
Edited by Deva Link on Saturday 24th October 13:29
How do you know the oil pump is broken, (oil pumps dont just break), how do you know the engine needs changing, how do you know the turbo needs changing??
Just because you heard all the bells and whistles sounding does not mean st, until you have seen the evidence. Audi's are notorious for having dodgy oil pressure sensors and have been for years. If youre unsure or not mechanically minded, get a second opinion from a well knowledged Audi mechanic, before you let loose any indie telling you that this is shagged and that is shagged, its so easy today to pull the wool over people eyes. Especially when youre possibly looking at a big bill.
Forget about all this crap on the Sale of Good Act, get someone else to look at it, it could be just a 30 pound sensor needs changing, or it could be a bill for a couple of thousand pounds i certainly know what i would be checking first.
Just because you heard all the bells and whistles sounding does not mean s
t, until you have seen the evidence. Audi's are notorious for having dodgy oil pressure sensors and have been for years. If youre unsure or not mechanically minded, get a second opinion from a well knowledged Audi mechanic, before you let loose any indie telling you that this is shagged and that is shagged, its so easy today to pull the wool over people eyes. Especially when youre possibly looking at a big bill.Forget about all this crap on the Sale of Good Act, get someone else to look at it, it could be just a 30 pound sensor needs changing, or it could be a bill for a couple of thousand pounds i certainly know what i would be checking first.
If its got full dealer service history, then it is likely goodwill will apply, the audi centre has to apply for it and see what happens. Typically I would expect Audi would pay 50% of the repair bill.
So unless you local garage can do the hole job parts and labour at half the cost its better off at an Audi centre.
So unless you local garage can do the hole job parts and labour at half the cost its better off at an Audi centre.
Forgot to ask
How many seconds did the engine run with the low oil pressure warning up on the dash???
Less than 30 seconds the engine will almost certainly be fine, and just need the turbo and defective oil pump replacing.
Turbo can be checked, quickly by removing the boost hose and feeling how much play there is in the shaft and how freely it rotates.
If you drove on, then could need engine work but they are pretty robust those old 1.8T's.
How many seconds did the engine run with the low oil pressure warning up on the dash???
Less than 30 seconds the engine will almost certainly be fine, and just need the turbo and defective oil pump replacing.
Turbo can be checked, quickly by removing the boost hose and feeling how much play there is in the shaft and how freely it rotates.
If you drove on, then could need engine work but they are pretty robust those old 1.8T's.
Edited by Tame Technician on Saturday 24th October 16:21
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