Octavia broken gearbox - Help Please
Octavia broken gearbox - Help Please
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eltax91

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10,784 posts

237 months

Friday 23rd October 2009
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Hi all, i've had an issue with the manual 'box in my Octavia TDi and i'm starting to wonder what the hell is wrong with it.

Basically, when it starts from cold, the gearbox feels generally "grainy" and quite nothcy. Plus, if you change down from 4->3 or 3->2 then it seems to require forcing to go into gear, until the speed is almost slow enough to change down again, at which point it slips in nicely.

The issue is the same when the 'box warms up, just a little less harsh. It'll go down the 'box easier and at higher speeds and feels slightly less grainy on the upchange.

All i've done is change the gear oil so far, which has made little/ no difference!

So, what the hell is up with it?!

Dr G

15,991 posts

273 months

Saturday 24th October 2009
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Any shards in the oil when you changed it?

Tame Technician

2,467 posts

235 months

Saturday 24th October 2009
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IS the clutch ok??


eltax91

Original Poster:

10,784 posts

237 months

Saturday 24th October 2009
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Dr G said:
Any shards in the oil when you changed it?
Sadly i didn't have time to change the oil, got a local garage do do it!

eltax91

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10,784 posts

237 months

Saturday 24th October 2009
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Tame Technician said:
IS the clutch ok??
Good question. It "feels" ok, no slipping, juddering etc. Feels as it has for last 50 k miles, since i've had the car!

Question is, how do i go about diagnosing a fault? How can i test the clutch?

Dr G

15,991 posts

273 months

Monday 26th October 2009
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How many miles on the car? Modern dual mass jobbies don't last very long at all on these.

You'd assume I suppose that if the gearbox oil had been full of iron filings the garage would have been good enough to tell you.

AdrianR

822 posts

315 months

Monday 26th October 2009
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More likely to be clutch not separating properly than gearbox from that description. What's it like going into 1st/reverse from standstill?

AdrianR

eltax91

Original Poster:

10,784 posts

237 months

Monday 26th October 2009
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AdrianR said:
More likely to be clutch not separating properly than gearbox from that description. What's it like going into 1st/reverse from standstill?

AdrianR
First/ reverse from a standstill is fine! Does that indicate anything?

In answer to the guy who asked mileage - 123k it's on now

Dr G

15,991 posts

273 months

Monday 26th October 2009
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In that case entirely likely that the clutch/flywheel have gone a bit senile; got a friendly garage who can take a look for you?

eltax91

Original Poster:

10,784 posts

237 months

Monday 26th October 2009
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Dr G said:
In that case entirely likely that the clutch/flywheel have gone a bit senile; got a friendly garage who can take a look for you?
Probably! The guys who did the gear oil were a decent bunch. I'll get them to take a look.

Anything i can do to self-test it first?

Tame Technician

2,467 posts

235 months

Monday 26th October 2009
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See how if feels going into revers, (if your box doesn't have a syncro on revers is better for testing).

Are the gear changed smoother if you match the revs.

How does if feel when you select first gear with the engine running as apposed to with the engine switched off.

eltax91

Original Poster:

10,784 posts

237 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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Tame Technician said:
See how if feels going into revers, (if your box doesn't have a syncro on revers is better for testing).

Are the gear changed smoother if you match the revs.

How does if feel when you select first gear with the engine running as apposed to with the engine switched off.
Hi mate. So, here goes:-

Reverse is ok, it slips in fine with no fuss at all - this is the case whether it's running or engine off. Gear changes are a little smoother if i match the revs, particularly on the down chage - although i wouldn't say it was perfect, just a little smoother.

When you select first with the engine running or engine off, the gears feel the same to change, just as tight and notchy....

Thanks for the advice so far, BTW

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Tame Technician

2,467 posts

235 months

Wednesday 28th October 2009
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Sounds like gear linkage rather than gearbox or clutch.

Generally internal gearbox wear effects the sycro hubs or selector mechanism for individual gears. So when you were talking about all the gears getting bad I was thinking clutch, but from you last post, I think the clutch sounds fine, so I'd say its some sort of linkage fault.

If it was the clutch, would be easier with the engine off, and revers would be as difficult if not worse than 1st.

I'm not actually farmiliar with the linkage on the skoda, so I cant really help any further.


Perhaps a specific VW or Skoda person can suggest exactly what. Do they seize up??