New Polo Petrol or Diesel?
New Polo Petrol or Diesel?
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grahamm

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211 posts

233 months

Thursday 29th October 2009
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Hello

I am considering ordering a new Polo and am considering the 70bhp 1.2 petrol or 75bhp 1.6 diesel. On paper the extra £1200 cost of the diesel would be offset by fuel savings of £20 per month and road fund tax saving of £85 per year, meaning the diesel would pay for itself inside four years leaving any extra residual value as 'profit'. I need a low insurance group for a young driver in the family but like the big car feel for my own use. I wonder if anyone has experience of both engines. I know the answer is to drive both but any demonstrators seem to be petrol at the moment. The diesel makes sense on paper but I would be prepared to pay the running costs of petrol if it is a much nicer drive.

Any input would be gratefully received

OliPolo

84 posts

209 months

Thursday 29th October 2009
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Go for the petrol! Although ive not drive the Diesel, the petrol is actually supprisingy nippy considering the 1.2 engine. good luck

va1o

16,118 posts

238 months

Thursday 29th October 2009
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Another vote for petrol here, diesel is only ever worth it on small cars if your doing high mileage.

plg101

4,106 posts

241 months

Thursday 29th October 2009
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I am guessing the diesel might be better on the motorway (more torque, lower revs at 70ish); if it's all round town/a/b roads then the petrol.

Gio G

2,995 posts

240 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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I would wait for the new 1.2 turbocharged engine - 100 hp, comes out next year. Will give you good economy, as well as performance..

va1o

16,118 posts

238 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Gio G said:
I would wait for the new 1.2 turbocharged engine - 100 hp, comes out next year. Will give you good economy, as well as performance..
I agree its an excellent engine, but it will cost more than the TDI 75 and will only be available in the top level SEL trim level.

lee111s

391 posts

219 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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Get the diesel and get it remapped

heightswitch

6,322 posts

281 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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lee111s said:
Get the diesel and get it remapped
Diesel every time. They drive better are more tourqey, seem less harsh, you don't need to row them along on the gearbox and in the real world with real driving you will find every time that fuel savings are much greater than the ones you calculate just using the mpg figures.

With modern diesels the small petrol motor has had its day.

especially for the commute.
N.

va1o

16,118 posts

238 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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heightswitch said:
With modern diesels the small petrol motor has had its day.
I would say its the other way round, and certainly looking at sales figures for the MK6 Golf it seems the majority of buyers seem to agree, as the 1.4 TSI models are selling by the bucket load compared to the 2.0 TDIs.

You can talk about torque and economy of diesels etc, but petrol is really catching up, and makes a lot more sense certainly for low mileage town usage. Diesel engines don't like constant start stop driving, and you don't get any economy benefit until they are warmed up.

agent006

12,058 posts

295 months

Friday 30th October 2009
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va1o said:
heightswitch said:
I would say its the other way round, and certainly looking at sales figures for the MK6 Golf it seems the majority of buyers seem to agree, as the 1.4 TSI models are selling by the bucket load compared to the 2.0 TDIs.
There's likely to be more to it than just the engine though. Company car tax makes a huge impact on what sells (take the number of Prius sales as a prime example).

OliPolo

84 posts

209 months

Saturday 31st October 2009
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Having driven a couple of VW Diesels, i have to say i think the petrol engines work far better in the smaller cars (although both the cars i drove were golfs). The petrol 1.4 which had 70 odd bhp never had problems pulling at normal speeds and on the motorway it was equally impressive, obviously within reason. I just dont think the diesel is called for unless the OP is planning on doing 12k> a year, but if the idea of buying the diesel to save on fuel costs, it seem slightly opintless to me as the choice would take a long time to reap the rewards. Nice looking cars anyway the new ones, look more suited to the style than the golf imo.

grahamm

Original Poster:

211 posts

233 months

Saturday 31st October 2009
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Thank you for your replies

I have driven the petrol and liked it. It certainly feels like a car from the class above. I am not interested in the higher powered versions because I need low insurance for my son. I anticipate annual mileage of 12,000 - 14,000 so the diesel could make sense, but it is a higher insurance group under the new grouping system due soon, although the same as the petrol at the moment. I will probably go with petrol because a higher insurance group could negate any other savings

heightswitch

6,322 posts

281 months

Saturday 31st October 2009
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grahamm said:
Thank you for your replies

I have driven the petrol and liked it. It certainly feels like a car from the class above. I am not interested in the higher powered versions because I need low insurance for my son. I anticipate annual mileage of 12,000 - 14,000 so the diesel could make sense, but it is a higher insurance group under the new grouping system due soon, although the same as the petrol at the moment. I will probably go with petrol because a higher insurance group could negate any other savings
My advice would be to drive both back to back and then decide.
N.

grahamm

Original Poster:

211 posts

233 months

Saturday 31st October 2009
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heightswitch said:
grahamm said:
Thank you for your replies

I have driven the petrol and liked it. It certainly feels like a car from the class above. I am not interested in the higher powered versions because I need low insurance for my son. I anticipate annual mileage of 12,000 - 14,000 so the diesel could make sense, but it is a higher insurance group under the new grouping system due soon, although the same as the petrol at the moment. I will probably go with petrol because a higher insurance group could negate any other savings
My advice would be to drive both back to back and then decide.
N.
I would try both but I cannot find a diesel demonstrator. I think the first batch of cars are all petrol 5 doors with diesel and 3 door versions following, although they are available to order now

heightswitch

6,322 posts

281 months

Saturday 31st October 2009
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grahamm said:
heightswitch said:
grahamm said:
Thank you for your replies

I have driven the petrol and liked it. It certainly feels like a car from the class above. I am not interested in the higher powered versions because I need low insurance for my son. I anticipate annual mileage of 12,000 - 14,000 so the diesel could make sense, but it is a higher insurance group under the new grouping system due soon, although the same as the petrol at the moment. I will probably go with petrol because a higher insurance group could negate any other savings
My advice would be to drive both back to back and then decide.
N.
I would try both but I cannot find a diesel demonstrator. I think the first batch of cars are all petrol 5 doors with diesel and 3 door versions following, although they are available to order now
The unavailability of a diesel demo should be telling you something.

I would bide your time and find the diesel demo. if a dealer wants your business they will find you one.

N.