A6 avant 3.0l quatro - what's it worth?

[tomw2000]

So, I love my A6 avant. It's a 3.0ltdi, quatro, s-line, le mans.
But for the local pottering about I do, I think it might be too much. Too smart. Too 'exec'.
I'm precious over it.
This has got me thinking about getting a LR Defender. Always wanted one and could (subject to test drive - monday) fit the bill nicely. I'd not worry about getting it dirty etc

So what should I expect to be able to get for my A6?

Phantom Black
<5k miles
Reg Oct '09
3.0l tdi auto
S-line
Le mans
High spec sat nav
DAB radio

Load pack - i.e. luggage nets for boot space
Privacy glass in the back.

The car is faultless with no marks on it and is as new. Might make a great saving for someone over dealer prices.

I think the original price was @ £43k.

Thoughts welcome and appreciated. Serious ones preferred

[993_C2S]

You're not going to like this example. A good mate of mine has just bought a very similar car - 3.0 TDI Le Mans in Daytona Grey, the same sort of options but also visibility pack (bendy xenons), '08 reg but with 40k miles (FASH). He bought it from a colleague of his for £19k

Apparently said colleague was offered £18k trade in against an A8 by the local Audi dealer, so he sold it to my chap for £19k. Obviously an older and more leggy example, but that's a hell of a bargain!

[tomw2000]

993_C2S said:

You're not going to like this example. A good mate of mine has just bought a very similar car - 3.0 TDI Le Mans in Daytona Grey, the same sort of options but also visibility pack (bendy xenons), '08 reg but with 40k miles (FASH). He bought it from a colleague of his for £19k

Apparently said colleague was offered £18k trade in against an A8 by the local Audi dealer, so he sold it to my chap for £19k. Obviously an older and more leggy example, but that's a hell of a bargain!

No worries. I know such things happen and I expect depreciation.

At the end of the day if it looks like I can't get what I'd like for it, I'll just keep it forever and run it into the ground

[993_C2S]

tomw2000 said:

At the end of the day if it looks like I can't get what I'd like for it, I'll just keep it forever and run it into the ground

That will be a long time, they're bloody good cars Mine has been perfect over 2 years and 57k miles.

Might be worth advertising it as a private sale in PH classifieds, see if you get any bites? They're sort after cars and perfect for families.

[Tame Technician]

Glass's says £31k, but to be honest, I not sure you what you would actually be able to get. Looking at auto trader, It would sell on an Audi centre forcourt for about £38k.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...


Maybe Dr G can see what CAP says.

Changing a car at 6-12 months is probably the worst time to do it, you will take the biggest hit on depreciation.

[james S]

I had the same feeling. I bought a 3k range rover to go with it. Best of both worlds.

[tomw2000]

Thanks for the price info and the comments thus far.

I'm thinking if I could get at least 35k for it, I'd sell it and get a 1-2yr old Defender 90 and pocket the rest.

I looked around on the audi site for approved used and dealers do seem to be advertising them for 37-39-ish. So 35k private might be doable - bearing in mind it's very young and has most of it's warranty remaining - it'd be like buying it from the dealer, but cheaper

I'll see how my defender test drive goes and then take a view on it. It's no hardship keeping it, it's a great car. It's just that I think it's more than I currently need and the defender might work better for me.

[brisel]

Have you spent much time in a Defender? I have driven them for years - my osteopath loves them because they keep him in business. Ever wondered why farmers have the driver's window wound down & have one elblow hanging outside? Because the driver is so badly squashed against the door in winter when the weather is bad they have to lean on one butt cheek just to fit inside it.

OK, so they go anywhere and might last forever (except they aren't very reliable now either) but they are a barely changed 60 year old design with no NCAP rating. IMHO they are over-priced, over-rated and under-powered. And no longer British.

Good luck with the test drive, but please DO talk to other LR owners before losing a packet on the A6 for a noisy Tonka Toy with no road manners.

Sorry. Rant over.

Yours, a back pain-ridden former Land Rover Defender owning farmer!

[tomw2000]

brisel said:

Have you spent much time in a Defender? I have driven them for years - my osteopath loves them because they keep him in business. Ever wondered why farmers have the driver's window wound down & have one elblow hanging outside? Because the driver is so badly squashed against the door in winter when the weather is bad they have to lean on one butt cheek just to fit inside it.

OK, so they go anywhere and might last forever (except they aren't very reliable now either) but they are a barely changed 60 year old design with no NCAP rating. IMHO they are over-priced, over-rated and under-powered. And no longer British.

Good luck with the test drive, but please DO talk to other LR owners before losing a packet on the A6 for a noisy Tonka Toy with no road manners.

Sorry. Rant over.

Yours, a back pain-ridden former Land Rover Defender owning farmer!

I am realistic about how utilatarian the Defender will seem compared to the Audi.

My back is already ruined anyway. The 911 doesn't help with that!

And if I need to travel distance in comfort, I'll take the wife's Range Rover(sport).

I just want this for a locaal runaround for myself. Something I can get muddy, drive into hedges and not get all precious and worried about it.

[brisel]

tomw2000 said:

Something I can get muddy, drive into hedges and not get all precious and worried about it.

Well, a Land Rover will do that ok!

Will a Japanese pickup not do? Navara/Hilux/Rodeo/etc?

[blueg33]

The first year seems to hit A6 values hardest. Depreciation on mine has slowed since its been over about 18 months old. Mine is a salooon so my be different.

You have an interesting decision to make, we just made a similar one for my wifes car and got a Subaru Outback which is fine off road and getting muddy but is also good everywhere else.

I love defenders until I drive one regularly and then it doesnt take long for the lack or comfort an the noise and the ride and the handling to piss me off

[Raven Flyer]

My 110 Defender was by some margin the worst car I have ever owned. I have never hated driving anything, except for this car. They are the most uncomfortable, noisy, rotten handling, poorly designed cars ever made.

They are fine in fields, or in Africa, but should never have made it onto UK roads.

[wrighty78]

It might be worth taking it into a couple of Audi dealers and just asking what they'll give you for it.

We did this last Autumn with the other half's 18 month old A3 and we were very pleasantly surprised at how much we got (£15k for a car Audi then advertised for £18k). She might have got £16k for it through a private sale, but then you've got the aggro of selling, and the inevitable truth that most punters would rather pay a little extra and buy from a dealer.

[tomw2000]

Thanks for all the comments guys.

Appreciate the honestyof those who've not enjoyed driving landies.

I'll update after I've test driven a 90 on Monday. And see if it's alot more utilitarian and uncomfortable than I was expected.

If I don't like it at all or can only thrupence for the A6, I'll keep the A6 anyway

[GreatGranny]

Stop pissing around and get one of these

[Dr G]

I'll have a proper look on Monday but offer that back to your supplying dealer as a first port of call, they will want that for stock.

[tomw2000]

Dr G said:

I'll have a proper look on Monday but offer that back to your supplying dealer as a first port of call, they will want that for stock.

Many thanks for this. I appreciate you giving me a realistic expectation, if you can have a look around for me.

I had thought of offering it back to the supplying dealer and will do that first.

[tomw2000]

So I trundled around quite happily in my Defender 90 test drive vehicle today.
One would suit my current needs perfectly.

I think I'll get the Audi advertised and see if I have any joy. And if so, I'll hunt for a decent 90.

I'll update if I make any progress.

[tomw2000]

Update as promised:

finally sold through main dealer yesterday. Returned £30,000 to me.
Someone got an utter bargain.

And I'd have been much harder hit on depreciation were it not for the discount I got originally + scrappage + part ex.

Car was £42,105 book price. I got some discount off that and paid, £33,000 + £2,000 scrappage + 03 BMW 530d touring part-ex(about to hit 100k miles, but nice car).

So all I've lost really is, £3k and the BMW.

Lesson learned. Ought to have bought more suitable car to start with. Brilliant vehicle though. Thoroughly recommended.

Can now go Defender shopping.

[mbrain]

Which Audi dealership did you sell it to? Just wondered what their mark up is on it?!